Anyone know a good graphics card for about the same price?

Johnthebunny

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I'm planning on getting an EVGA gtx 970 sc acx 2.0, but people have told me that it is not a good time to buy one right now. Does anyone have any recommendations on what graphics card to get for around the same price?
 
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I'd recommend you wait a little while.

The cheapest I can find a 970 for is $250. The new AMD RX 480 (4GB) version should be comparable with a GTX 980 (non-TI) with a launch price of $199.

The 8GB version of the RX 480 is rumoured to be launching at $229 - so a great option then too.

Better performance, newer tech, higher VRAM (in the 8GB version) & a cheaper price. The RX 480 should be the one to go for.

Should be available by the end of the month, so it's not like you'd be waiting very long.

Barty1884

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I'd recommend you wait a little while.

The cheapest I can find a 970 for is $250. The new AMD RX 480 (4GB) version should be comparable with a GTX 980 (non-TI) with a launch price of $199.

The 8GB version of the RX 480 is rumoured to be launching at $229 - so a great option then too.

Better performance, newer tech, higher VRAM (in the 8GB version) & a cheaper price. The RX 480 should be the one to go for.

Should be available by the end of the month, so it's not like you'd be waiting very long.
 
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It's also not a good card...the 970 is a great card, just not that particular one. The fixed the heat pipe thing, but the other deficiencies remain

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/3

Which 970 to buy is a well established choice, however if waiting for the 480, it will be a while before the dust settles. And as with any card, we never recommend buying in the first few months as:

a) prices are high
b) The 'better cards' don't come out till later
c) The 1st cards are all 1st stepping PCBs, manufacturers respond to RMA rates, performance comparisons, user complaints and just in-house analysis by making changes and tweaks which you won't get the benefit of if you rush out as soon as they are available.






 

Barty1884

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I agree with this, as a general rule - especially when talking about higher end cards. A $200 card though in the RX480, I think it's worth the (mostly low) risk.

Sure, there will be tweaks & improvements over time, even newer cards. But that's true of any hardware purchase at any time. Ultimately, something better will be along 'soon' at all times.
 


I find those two paragraphs a bit contradictory ... what indicator exists that somehow the 480 will be different, especially after what we saw with the 2xx and 3xx series cards ? Newer, next generation cards will certainly arrive in another 18 months or so but that's not what we are talking about here. I'm not talking about next generation 2018 products but products that will be here in a matter of weeks. How can we say "let's not decide on a 9xx or 10xx series card today, wait a 6 weeks for the Polaris cards to arrive" and in the next breadth say "there's nothing to be gained by waiting to see how much better the later version cards might be "

We are not talking about next generation cards or even same generation new models, we are talking about same generation, same series cards ( i will pick on nVidia here) that in recent memory have:

- throttle out of the box because their cooling is inadequate (latest example FE cards)
- have 1 of 3 heat pipes that miss the GPU (i.e. EVGA 970 SC)
- have adhesive tape which is so strong that when taking of off, you sometimes damage the fans (i.e. MSI 9xx).
- have high RMA rates until problems are addressed (i..e Giga G1)
- later receive BIOS / driver updates to correct fan control inadequacies (i.e. 10xx series cards)
- cost more than they will weeks from now (i.e. every card ever marketed)
- had weak VRMs resulting in the getting fried when overclocking (i.e. GTX 570)

The 2xx / 3xx series cards also have their known issues, most heat / noise related.

I just can't see how being the 1st one on your block to have the "latest thing" outweighs paying "less for more" 6 weeks later.

 

Barty1884

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I agree they are slightly contradictory. What I'm saying is I agree with your argument - and I certainly wouldn't advocate for a new 'top of the line' GPU @ $500+ due to the 'teething' issues you've pointed out.

I'd say it's a calculated gamble with a ~$200 card.

You make valid arguments with most of the points - there definitely are risks to being an early adopter.

The adhesive & heat pipes missing the GPU, weak VRMs are situations I would hope manufactures learned their lesson - of course there's no guarantees.

I don't necessarily agree with costing more than it will weeks from now (unless you're talking 12+weeks).
The RX 480 is being launched as a ~$200 card. There will be higher/'better' cards in the linup. $200 doesn't have much room to drop in the market - especially not in the short term.




Compare things like.....say a GTX 950 (launched to fill more of a 'budget' gap with good performance*). Launched around $150 MSRP. Near 12 months later we're down to $120ish (excluding rebates). 20% saving in a year.

GTX 960, same idea. $199 MSRP - actually priced more around $300. Now around $220. 25% saving in a year.

Although those are nVidia options, same idea *should* apply.

A $200 card (assuming it actually launches at MSRP) will likely be $160 in a year.

BIOS/driver updates shouldn't be classed as a problem (provided the card is useable without them).

The high RMA rates are directly related to the other potential problems (most of which should've been taken into consideration during development) so it's not a problem in & of itself.

If the OP wants to wait a year (or at least wait a while for the kinks to straighten out), it's certainly not a bad move.

I just feel a slight risk for the RX 480 (due to the potential issues you've highlighted) over a 970 makes sense when comparing cost and (expected) performance

*I am not comparing an RX 480 to a GTX 950 in performance, by any stretch.