How well does fast sync work?

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Does anybody here have a 10 series gpu with a 60 Hz panel?
I know it sounds ridiculous but still... anyone?
Can you tell me if fast sync technology does any good for such panels - I want to get a 1070 and like a half of my reasoning for doing so is that it has fast sync technology so that I wouldn't have to upgrade still quite new 1440 @60 Hz Dell panel.
 
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It is excellen if you are pushing double or more the frequency in FPS. In your case that would be 120FPS. Below that, as you go down, it starts to resemble Vsync. You should have gotten a G-Sync monitor.
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That really sucks. Did you experienced it first hand or did you read it somewhere on the web?
 
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Christ, and I was so stocked about that feature (although I suspected that it sounds too good to be true... as always... with nvidia). What monitor would with g sync would you recommend then? I want a kind of all-in-one thing - you know, good for watching movies, gaming, surfing the web... preferably IPS since I use my rig as a TV like most of the time. I guess you'll say Asus ROGUE 279Q :)
 
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And it's cheaper than the ROG - now we're talking! :) Did you try this out or did you pick Dell for better customer service and zero bright dead pixels policy? I also wanted to ask about one thing - I've read that 1440p panels are worse for playing FullHD content because of some interpolation of pixels and whatnot so it'd would be better to shell out money for a 4K panel even if it really hurts because the picture would be much better than on 1440p (supposedly - as the panel would just color 4 pixels the same way unlike 1440p). Did you hear about any of that? What panel are you using?
 
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That is only true if you try to game in 1080p on a 1440p panel. Content playback is the same.
The advantage that 4k has while gaming on one in 1080p is that you can literally just display each 1080p pixel a 4x4 pixels on a 4k screen and be left wiht just soome thin black bard on the side.
But you want to get a 1070, which is a card perfectly suited to 1440p.
And 4k is too much resolution for both windows and gaming as no card can really push high 4k framerates.
I chose teh Dell because of the good reviews and beacause i know peaople who own it and love it. Also, it's teh cheapest 1440p g-sync panel so..
 
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I've looked into reviews and I'm kind of disappointed with that model - bad angles is the deal breaker for me - I could rather put up with mediocre performance with everything than having good gaming experience and shitty experience when watching movies and shows. I guess if I were to muster the courage to get an expensive panel I'd go all the way and get a really good one so that I don't have any complaints about my panel except its price (if only it was possible)... so Asus or Acer, I guess... as a matter of fact my Dell P2416D isn't that bad at all - I only get tearing at old games and it doesn't feel like the end of the world and it hardly ever stutters if the framerate is 50-ish so maybe I'll just stay put and wait until Dell releases a descent IPS gaming panel or the price for PG279 drops a bit... unless the 1070 ruins that fragile balance but I hope I should be fine with V-sync turned on since it kiils it in 1440p and the framerate doesn't dip below 60 fps.
Actually my biggest grievance with my panel is motion blur but I've read that even expensive panels with ULMB technology aren't completely immune to that.
 
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You will get no motion blur on the Asus PG279Q. And prices aren't really going much lower.
A top quality monitor will always cost top dollar.
Byte the bullet if you have the cash and you won't be sorry. G-Sync itself is a gamechanger. I'm never playing on a non-adptive sync display. I just can't go back :)
 
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IDK - I read a review where were photos of motion blur on that panel - to be fair, it was a very close shot so maybe it's not noticeable from half a meter.
So what panel are you using - Acer X34? It doesn't have any motion blur at all? Maybe you just don't look close enough? The reason I'm asking is that I've never seen a desktop panel completely free of that sin. Granted I'm not a pro or anything so I dealt with only about a dozen panels and I've never looked at 500+ $ panels... The only time I saw no motion blur whatsoever was when I'd been using MacPro Retina for 3 years but you know... they're made with magic and pixie dust so...
 
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That's what I'm afraid of - I think I'll be really pissed if Asus PG279Q has motion blur - I'll try to try it out before buying. Theoretically there are panels without motion blur - I didn't have it on macbook pro retina - at least as long as I remember - I've started noticing motion blur only after I'd spend nearly 3 years on mbp - when I ditched it and switched to a desktop. Too bad that hardly any reviewers point out how bad motion blur on the panel is.
I don't think I'm gonna buy Asus if it has the same motion blur as my Dell - no way I'm forking over that kind of money just for adaptive sync.
 
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Oh, don;t worry. Theres no way that that Asus has the sama amount as your Dell. Asus uses great gaming panels.
Though, ideally, you should check one out before you buy it. My money sais that it will be impercievable.

This is teh easyest way to test for motion blurr: http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates
 
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Hm... interesting. My panel does have motion blur but it's not so annoying. Moreover, it looks kind of natural since our brain perceives fast movement blurred so the problem I'm describing is not motion blur but rather stuttering - looks like that flying ufo on 30 fps in this test, 60 fps looks ok. Don't know what the problem is - maybe the size of a moving object matters too.
And now my head aches from looking at these pictures... shit...
 
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Well, damn! You know what the most important issue taht G-sync fixes completly is? Stuttering ;)

Get that Asus and never look back. You can thank me for the advice afterwards :)
 
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So I've got the PG279Q today. I've tinkered with it for couple hours and guess what - not impressed. :D
There's still that weird stuttering thing in movies (ULMB doesn't help either - as a matter of fact, it looks worse because the brightness drops dramatically) and I don't see any difference with G sync in games which run at approx 60 fps. It sure looks really cool on games like Quake Live and CS GO where I get 120+ fps all the time but in other games - not so much... as I suspected. I think I'll test it for couple more days and if it doesn't win me over with something awesome I'm returning it to the store - thank God it has some kind of grace period - it's one week for displays.
 
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