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My friend just finished creating this PC components list. He wants this to be an amazing gaming PC. He plays GTA 5, call of duty, and dayz mostly. He wants to know how many fps will he be approximately getting in these games. He said he may start YouTube but not for awhile. So how will this build do in video editing. And lastly he said will this build last him the next 2-3 years? Here's his build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($65.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($71.90 @ Amazon)
Other: RX 480 ($200.00)
Total: $605.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-25 22:21 EDT-0400

He also Said, please Intel fanboys don't try to tell him why he shouldn't get AMD. He says the 8320 is looking like a great processor and it is better than an i3 and maybe better than certain i5s.
 
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Benchmarks published by most websites are all single player. When you compare the performance of the AMD 8 core and the i3 in online play the results usually favor the AMD.

The intel is usually better in DX9 games.
In DX12 the AMD should be clearly superior simply because it is a much more powerful chip
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I personally would opt for a better motherboard like an Asus M5A990FX Pro 2.0 or an MSI 970 Gaming 5 board. They are good relatively inexpensive boards. The rule of thumb is don't put 8 core FX on a cheapie board, VRM problems will likely result. Also under no circumstances would I buy a 960 for $170 when the RX480 drops in a few days with Fury/980 performance for $200. You also didn't list any ram. 16GB kits are dirt cheap now.
 
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Being an Intel fanboy has nothing to do with the issue that building with AMD makes little sense right now. The GTX 1070 will be bottlenecked by the CPU and has no real options for being upgraded. In gaming, an i3 6100 does in fact outperform that processor. The FX may be slightly better for editing, depending on what software he uses, but for everything else, no contest. His money and if he wants spend more for less performance and outdated hardware, that's his prerogative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-JtmIfS4sw

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
 
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What's up with the video cards? Is he using both, or is the 960 a place holder until he buys the 1070? In either case the 750W PSU is a poor choice. I'd get a better quality 500-550W PSU. With an SSD it should make an ok basic build.

He also Said, please Intel fanboys don't try to tell him why he shouldn't get AMD. He says the 8320 is looking like a great processor and it is better than an i3 and maybe better than certain i5s.
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He's wrong, but at least he probably knows it. I'll keep an eye on this thread and wack anyone who brings up how wrong he is. ;)
 
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He said what's a good cheap 16gb kit he could use. And he also said he'll go for the 480 now.
 
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For the majority of games, a processor's single thread performance determines how well it performs, not how many cores it has. The architecture of Intel's right now is much more efficient, which allows them to do more "work" per clock cycle. Even the FX running at a higher frequency can't overcome this. A good analogy might be comparing a small turbocharged engine to a larger naturally aspirated one. The smaller engine can make more power because the turbocharger increases it's efficiency.
 
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He says, What AMD processor can compare to intels i3 6100?
 
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He said he's pretty surprised to see that. He has watched many youtube videos about how the 8320 was better.
 
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Look at what I linked, he's already got it.

I'm going to take a chance and point out that if he wants to be streaming while gaming the AMD chip is a better option. With the extra cores he'll take less of a performance hit. An i5 would be better, but if the option of gaming and streaming was between the 83xx and the 6100 I'd take the 83xx. More so if he'll be editing videos and what not.

Looks like I'm not wacking anyone seeing as mikey is questioning this. Fire away "intel fanboys" but lets keep it civil please.

Edit: Here's the thing. Anyone can run a youtube channel. Technically anyone can post stuff online as well, but if you stick to well known sites it's harder to get bad data. (though it is possible.) I picked that link simply because it was on top of a search result. Poke around, see if it matches other sites. The 6100 is a pretty potent guy.
 
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He said which will be better for recording and gaming at a high fps?
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And did you just call me mikey xD??
 
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I just made this, what do you think of it?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2PV DDR3 (rev. 1.0) Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($71.90 @ Amazon)
Other: RX 480 ($200.00)
Total: $598.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-25 22:48 EDT-0400
 
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I would suggest using a B150 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. The B150 is only going to be a few dollars more and you will get extra SATA and USB ports. Intel recommends that only DDR3L RAM be used with Skylake CPU's.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($71.90 @ Amazon)
Other: RX 480 ($200.00)
Total: $598.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-25 22:55 EDT-0400

http://wccftech.com/skylake-does-not-support-ddr3-damage-ddr3l-only/

If your friend REALLY intends to to do a lot of editing or streaming, then the FX or an i5/i7 would be a better choice.
 
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1. Whats the difference between DDR3 and DDR4, is it major? 2. He will be mostly gaming and recording he will obviously need to edit his videos (im letting him share my adobe account with me).
 
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Since it looks like your friend has a budget to contend with and he is only casually going to be recording/editing, I think the i3 is a better choice. I would rather trade the extra rendering time for FPS. The difference between DDR4 2133 and DDR3 1600 isn't much, but since the pricing is nearly the same, you might as well go with the latest hardware for longevity's sake.
 
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But here's the thing badactor. The gaming FPS were mostly the same. Some differences here and there, but it's not like one was way slower. The i3 gets the nod for me because of the lower thermal/power draw. But if you'll be streaming as well or editing videos, the 83xx performs closer to an i7. At a much cheaper price. If this is gaming only I'd go 6100 all day long. But if he's doing other things with it that have been mentioned I'd probably end up with the 8320. Similar gaming performance, but much better encoding performance.
 
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Benchmarks published by most websites are all single player. When you compare the performance of the AMD 8 core and the i3 in online play the results usually favor the AMD.

The intel is usually better in DX9 games.
In DX12 the AMD should be clearly superior simply because it is a much more powerful chip
 
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I agree
 
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