Looking to upgrade to a better GPU. What are my options. under 200$ please.

resinmage · Jun 26, 2016

So my CPU has graphics on it but they cannot be used i read so I want to upgrade. I am getting 20fps drops in Fallout 4.

Could anyone recomend or link me to a card that will work on my PC with my psu and MB and cpu?

My Specs :
Operating System
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-7850K48 °C
Kaveri 28nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 930MHz (10-11-10-30)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. A58M-A/USB3 (FM2+ )33 °C
Graphics
SHARP HDMI (1920x1080@60Hz)
3072MB ATI AMD Radeon R9 200 Series (MSI)33 °C
Storage
465GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-75V0A0 (SATA)40 °C
119GB MTFDBAK128MAG-1G1 (SSD)
Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected
Audio
AMD High Definition Audio Device

clutchc · Jun 26, 2016

I don't see a PSU size listed there. But if it is an Asus pre-built, it may only be a 300W. That would limit you to a GTX 750 Ti as the fastest card you can safely use. Possibly a GTX 950 if the PSU has the +12V specs to allow it.
$200 will limit you to one of these cards if you have a better PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204017%20600451269%20600536666%20601107976%20601203818&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=BESTMATCH&PageSize=30

resinmage · Jun 26, 2016

clutchc :

my PSU says on the back of it where I plug in the cord HX 750

rcald2000 · Jun 26, 2016

+resinmage If you truly have a Corsair HX 750 (750 watts of course) then you have almost unlimited options. For your $200 budget, you should strongly consider the AMD RX 480 (4 GB) model which is supposed to release in three days on June 29th for $199. However, were it might money, I would stretch the budget to $229.99, in order to get the 8 GB version. Either one will be a tremendous upgrade.

clutchc · Jun 27, 2016

resinmage :

If this is your PSU: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hx-series-hx750-power-supply-750-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-modular-psu
...you will not be limited by power. Your budget is your only limit. But getting too much card for the APU can be a waste of money. The A10-7850K will bottleneck most any card beyond a GTX 960 or R9-380. However... If you DO get a faster card it can always be moved along to the next PC if you ever upgrade.

madmatt30 · Jun 27, 2016

I'm lost here .

Your specs clearly show a discrete MSI 3gb GPU- & that has to be a 7950/7970/280/280x.

clutchc · Jun 27, 2016

@ madmatt30
I believe that 3 GB is the amount of system RAM that the iGPU will allocate when needed.

madmatt30 · Jun 27, 2016

^ still not certain of that when it has its own temp reading & also lists MSI as manufacturer when the board is Asus .

Also kaveri chips should show the GPU as an r7 series not an r9.

Obviously that spec listing may be wrong.

clutchc · Jun 27, 2016

madmatt30 :

Good point. I missed the "R9" reference.

rcald2000 · Jun 27, 2016

+resinmage Could you please take some photos of the inside of your computer, so that we can confirm if you have a discreet graphics card or not. Then post those photos on imgur and post the link here.

+madmatt30 Good catch.

Madmatt30's observation has prompted a bunch of questions in my mind:

Is there a discreet graphics card installed?

If so, is the computer utilizing the discreet GPU or the onboard graphics?

If using the discreet graphics, is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU?

Would the $200 budget be better allocated to a skylake CPU and MB?

resinmage · Jun 27, 2016

rcald2000 :

Yes it is the Corrsair 750. BTW i'm clueless about PC's some idiot put the CPU in my rig with that MB and the 290x MSI video card. So that is good news then being able to get a better GPU to work with my Motherboard. I just want to know if I can get another better video card that it wont be a problem with my MB or that CPU he put in my rig.

resinmage · Jun 27, 2016

rcald2000 :

+resinmage Could you please take some photos of the inside of your computer, so that we can confirm if you have a discreet graphics card or not. Then post those photos on imgur and post the link here.

+madmatt30 Good catch.

Madmatt30's observation has prompted a bunch of questions in my mind:

Is there a discreet graphics card installed?- yes a msi 290 x gpu

If so, is the computer utilizing the discreet GPU or the onboard graphics? I have no idea. The fans on the video card spin while playing the game I do know that. The PC shows I do have a cpu and a video card. I honestly don't know what the craigsllist guy did to my pc.

He had me buy that cpu and MB and psu at FRYS then put it all together in a big case with my msi 290x gpu.

This was supposed to be an upgrade. All I have read is my cpu has graphics but I can't use them while using my video card. I would like some clarity.

If using the discreet graphics, is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU?

Would the $200 budget be better allocated to a skylake CPU and MB?

resinmage · Jun 27, 2016

clutchc :

yes that list was from my Speccy program. sorry about the confusion.

I have that MB, PSU, and the 7850 cpu AND an MSI 290x video card.

resinmage · Jun 27, 2016

clutchc :

resinmage :

Oh no that sucks. So your tellimng me even if I get a better GPU my latest cpu upgrade will not let the video card work to its fullest potential or something?

If this is your PSU: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hx-series-hx750-power-supply-750-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-modular-psu
...you will not be limited by power. Your budget is your only limit. But getting too much card for the APU can be a waste of money. The A10-7850K will bottleneck most any card beyond a GTX 960 or R9-380. However... If you DO get a faster card it can always be moved along to the next PC if you ever upgrade.

clutchc · Jun 27, 2016

resinmage :

A 290X!? That is way more gfx card than the A10-7850K can keep up with. You should be getting the best performance you possibly can. Are you sure the monitor is plugged into the card and not the motherboard video?

resinmage · Jun 27, 2016

clutchc :

sorry it may be the 280x - this one http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=280x&view=detailv2&&id=358DB6615FC24CA4954ED2D72D9FD61B169FD0AB&selectedIndex=0&ccid=U84sYrYj&simid=608004784185281352&thid=OIP.M53ce2c62b62312380f9e8732b60ef8d2o0&ajaxhist=0

3072MB ATI AMD Radeon R9 200 Series (MSI) is what It says. It is plugged into hdmi into the GPU.

junkeymonkey · Jun 27, 2016

still a 280x aint no slouch of a card more powerful that the newer 380's if you got any of them 2 cards you aint hurting in the gpu dept.......

you may as well face it tis that fm2 hurting you its not like you get any real processing power there with them [opinion]

resinmage · Jun 27, 2016

junkeymonkey :

Some guy off craigslist site went with me to the store and showed me what to buy. That MB, PSU a case , fan and that 7850 cpu because that was the best one he said at the time for that MB and my budget. I have no idea how to upgrade and install a cpu besides I already upgraded to that 7850.

can't I just buy a newer video card because this 280x can't even play on high and ultra settings. I get 20fps drops in cities. Barley get over 30fps. So it can't be that great.

junkeymonkey · Jun 27, 2016

''Some guy off craigslist site went with me to the store and showed me what to buy''

I'm glad your still with us

''newer video card because this 280x can't even play on high and ultra settings''

that's a lot of card for that chip and i'll assume its a bottle neck that 280x need a proformance cpu like a AM3+ 8350 or higher end of the i5 series in order to let the card open up

'' However, the R9-280X is a bit much for the APU to keep up with. You will be paying for graphics power you won't be able to use. CPU bottleneck, in other words. Drop back to the R9-280 or the GTX 260 for a better balanced system''

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2691566/crossfire-amd-a10-7850k-sapphire-280x-3gb-ddr5-tri.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2098178/a10-7850k-bottleneck-gtx-770-280-280x-ghz.html

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/162491-a10-7850k-with-r9-290-directcu-ii/

you just got way more gpu then you do cpu and its holding things back

your gpu is wanting to get up and go but the cpu is tripping over its tongues hanging out while its gasping

clutchc · Jun 27, 2016

Your problem isn't the gfx card. If you are not happy with the performance, the problem is the CPU. Or other issues with your system. To get better performance from the gfx card that you have, you need to move to a faster platform than the FM2.

Looking to upgrade to a better GPU. What are my options. under 200$ please.

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