GTX 1070 FE performance issues and temperature problems, please help!

petersona95

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Hi, I just purchased a 1070, and it almost seems like it performs worse than my 970. I am testing it out on Witcher 3, and I am getting frame drops as low as 30FPS randomly, while it seems to cap out around 63ish FPS. These frame drops only seem to happen when I move around and look at things with a far LOD, however I see stuttering even when running around a small enclosed area.

What worries me even more is that it is sitting at a constant 82 degrees, which is TERRIBLE compared to my 970. My old 970 used to cap out around 60 degrees at full load. I am worried there is a defect with my new 1070.

I also tried toning down the graphics settings to "low," I still get a continuous FPS when standing still, but as I run around and look at things far in the distance I STILL get drops to as low as 30 fps .

I also tried uninstalling/reinstalling the drivers, but that didn't seem to help.

Here is a link to GPU-z and my Task Manager while running Witcher 3: http://imgur.com/a/5bymD

My build is as follows:

i5 4690k
MSI z87m
GTX 1070 FE
8gb @ 1600mhz cas 10

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 
It's a FE aka "reference" card, it is thermally throttling. That's what reference cards do.

http://videocardz.com/60838/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-gaming-x-is-much-better-than-founders-edition

Hardware.Info: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X is much better than Founders Edition

Hardware.Info throttling test is quite simple, 30 minute loop of F1 2015. We are looking at clock stability and temperatures here. NVIDIA’s own reference design suffers from severe throttling just after few minutes. It probably wouldn’t be that bad if not the frequency spikes. While average clock is somewhere around officially stated boost clock, those spikes cause micro-stuttering, which negatively affects gaming experience.

Hardware.info:

Founders Edition suffers from a horrendous amount of throttling and it runs +- 150 MHz lower all the time.

Meanwhile, MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X generates almost a straight line for GPU frequency (~1910 MHz), with no spikes and rather constant sub-70 C temperature. This should mean that the gaming experience will be much better, and card should theoretically generate better results in most tests. Also according to H.I. this is also the best custom design they so far tested.

GTX-1080-FE-clocks-over-time.png


If image is not displaying, go here:

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/06/GTX-1080-FE-clocks-over-time.png

In the above image you see the FE (reference) design throttling like the begeezes.... bouncing from 1795 all the way down to 1680. The MSI non-reference design is flat as a pancake. That is what your are experiencing. Options:

1. Return the card (Recommended)
2. Manually increase the fan speeds w/ MSI Afterburner.
3. Wait for the 'fix' promised by nVidia to lessen the impact (basically an new fan profile)

Notice the PerfCapReason Graph ... each time it changes color, that's a bad thing and it indicates that performance is being capped for one reason or another... temps, power or voltage limits being exceeded.



 

petersona95

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Thank you for your response. When you say Nvidia will 'fix' this issue, is it going to be a driver/software fix, or will it actually need to be a physical fix?

Also, will turning up fan speeds in MSI afterburner manually damage the card in the long run? It says in gpu-z that my fans are only running at 54% capacity.
 

angelo143

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The founders editions run at 82 degrees so don't worry about that .try to rise the temps max at 93c instead of the default 83c .doing that the card will have about 87 c .that should stop the thermolthroteling issues and let the card run freely at max clock speed and should stop these jumps in MHz and get more fps in gaming .please tell me want happened after that.
 

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Thanks for your response. I actually ended up returning it and getting the seahawk version instead. It now averages around 55 degrees at load, and that's even in an Ncase! Thank you for your help!