need HELP building a new Gaming PC(please)

creopaws

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So, I am wanting to order a new 1080P gaming pc and I cannot go over $925(cheaper is better for me, but I want the absolute BEST performance I can get with my money and im willing to spend a little extra if it comes with significant reliability and performance.). I will be using it for strictly gaming, with some multi tasking here and there and of course the basics. The biggest problems
for me in building a PC for me is picking the ssd, ram and the motherboard.

I dont want to get a cheap, unreliable motherboard, but at the same time I have a budget and cant go crazy. I also would love to order the Samsung Evo 850 50gb SSD, but have no money at the moment for it as in every build that I make it goes way over my budget. I'm planning on upgrading the SSD in like 1-2 years possibly if that helps at all.

As far as the ram goes I will be using a Hyper Evo 212, so Low Profile ram would probably be best for me as it may get tight sometimes trying to install the ram that is bigger in size.

Finally, I cannot decide whether to go with the Intel Xeon 1231 v3 or the i5 6600k. I do not plan on overclocking, and the Xeon seems to have i7 performance but at an i5 price without overclocking(which is AWESOME).

Then it comes back to what motherboard can actually be decent with this cpu, as most of the ones under $80 look sketchy as hell. Ill link 2 VERY similar builds so you can use them as a reference for what I am particularly looking for.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RpNwVY OR http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zcsr7h
THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!
 
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Here is what I would suggest. Do you need peripherals and OS?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($228.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card:...
For gaming, clock speed and, in particular the performance of the single master thread is all important.
Few games can use more than 2-3 threads, so the hyperthreads of the Xeon will go unused mostly.
At your budget, a skylake I5-6600K is as good as it gets.
Particularly with an overclock that can easily be 35%.
You need not do so initially, but the "K" was designed for it, and the performance potential is compelling.
All you do is increase the stock 35 multiplier in the bios to a higher number.
As of 5/2016
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.40v Vcore.

I5-6600K
5.0 2%
4.9 11%
4.8 36%
4.7 64%
4.6 88%

You will need a Z170 based motherboard to overclock. Yes, they will be more in the $120 range.
You will need ddr4 ram, but speed is not important so a 16gb kit will be priced the same as ddr3.

I5-6600K does not come with a cooler. But, a $30 cryorig H7 or hyper212 will do the job.

Ram heat spreaders are mostly marketing; I agree with low profile ram. The cryorig H7 does not have a ram issue nor a height issue.

Modern graphics cards need much less power.
I would bypass the R9 cards unless you got a very good deal.

With the new RX480 and the upcoming GTX1060, you need to carefully see what you really need in graphics.
Here is a chart on what psu you will need:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
And some EVGA units are not that good. Look for a tier 1 ir 2 unit from a list such as this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice.

 

creopaws

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Ok, you gave maybe the best answer Ive ever received on here and I appreciate it so much(just to clear that up). So, if I understand correctly, you would recommend me do this:
Get an i5 6600k instead of the Xeon(if you could elaborate more on that, that'd be great because I saw an Xeon compete with an i7)
Buy a 240GB or 500gb SSD
Buy another card besides the r9(I really like the r9 390 though, as it meets my needs, cheaper than the gtx 970 and doesnt have Power issues as the rx 480 does)

Sounds fine, but I kind of disagree but at the same time you seem very educated about this kind of stuff, so I want to trust yo but I really dont want overclock. I dont know why, I just feel like it shortens the life span of my computer as I am planning on keeping this for 2-3 years with minor upgrades here and there. I feel like you are right about the SSD, but not sure. Would you recommend me getting a 1tb HDD and a 120GB SSD that I can upgrade later? I think I may keep the GPU, but will highly consider the CPU, as the overclocking by 35% just astonishes me for some reason and makes me feel you are right. As for the motherboard, I figured it would cost that much, but maybe with cutting down on the other parts(without cutting the performance) I could get a mobo for around that price. Could you possibly making me 1 or 2 builds with what we have discussed so far? Budget is $925 but I can go a little over. I would like to order the PC today.
 

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Here is what I would suggest. Do you need peripherals and OS?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($228.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB Video Card ($200.00)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $930.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-18 14:55 EDT-0400
 
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