Building first gaming pc confused

Gary941 · Jul 3, 2016

Hey guys really confused on what I need or what's the best, need a gaming pc for around 800 dollars or a bit more to play wow and fifa 17 when its released on decent settings. Ideas anyone? Thanks

Acapella · Jul 3, 2016

Heya. You'll definitely want i5 power on those titles. A strong graphics card is also pretty necessary. With the following build, you should get solid performance at 1080p on those titles, and any other modern titles. The 970 could be swapped for the RX 480 if you prefer.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yzD8K

Intel Core i5-4690k 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor - $235
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler - $25
MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard - $83
Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory - $35
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive - $48
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card - $270
Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case - $35
EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply - $50
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit - $84
Total Cost - $826, $779 after rebates

Gary941 · Jul 3, 2016

Is the rx480 better or? And I also won't need windows 10

Acapella · Jul 3, 2016

The rx480 is newer (released Wednesday). It seems to have very similar performance to the GTX 970, but has a 8GB vram model. It has power consumption problems that AMD is actively trying to fix. The rx480 is more future proof, and better if you're looking for 1440p. If you're on 1080p, the 970 will be more than enough. I also changed my recommendation on the post above to the 4690k and the MSI Z97 PC Mate, and removed Windows 10. This cost is still $825 and $779 after rebates.

n0ns3ns3 · Jul 3, 2016

RX 480 is overhyped crap

Get the 970 or even better wait a week for the GTX 1060.
Also, within same budget if you don't need the windows, you can get the latest gen 6 i5 with DDR4.
not that it would change much in terms of performance, just more power efficient and modern platform.
Also will be easier to find a memory kit in a couple of years if you decide to upgrade

Gary941 · Jul 3, 2016

Could you add those two recommended parts with links just from part picker and what about choosing a monitor for 1440p? I have extra for that

n0ns3ns3 · Jul 3, 2016

I'm not a monitor expert, so I'll pass it to audience

About the acapela's suggested build, I'd only change those:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-E ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($77.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $436.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-03 18:29 EDT-0400

It's about same price. Just pic the memory kit of the size the matches your preference. I included both for convinience.
GTX 1060 is not yet available, supposed to come out this week. Suggested performance is about the same as 980 or ~20% faster than RX 480. Price 250-300. That ccard is better suited for 1440p gaming

Acapella · Jul 3, 2016

Also no idea on monitors. You can prob google search it, or search elsewhere on toms. Good luck my friend!

lfkfkfkffs · Jul 3, 2016

If you only play wow and fifa you are better off just getting an 6100 i3 and putting more budget into other areas. I've played wow for years and the only thing you really need for it is a dual core or higher that has good single thread performance, 8 gigs of ram and a decent gpu. Fifa will also work great on an i3. Like I gave my friend my ancient system that had 8 gigs of ddr 2, a 9800 GT, and a q8400 and they still got 45+ fps on medium to high settings in wow. You can save yourself a lot of money by doing this. This way you could also have budget for a decent monitor and gaming mouse and keyboard. Gaming mice are amazing for mmorpg's

Gary941 · Jul 3, 2016

Won't be ordering parts till sometime next week so might just go for the gtx 1060. Think I'll stick to the build mentioned then and decide on the memory thanks guys

n0ns3ns3 · Jul 3, 2016

Just pay attention to the builds differences. CPUs, Mother Boards and RAM are not interchangeable. They are of different generations, though the price difference is like 0.

Acapella · Jul 3, 2016

lfkfkfkffs :

The minimum requirements for FIFA 16 require a Quad-Core processor. I have had a G3258 at 4.4ghz and FIFA 15 would not run at all. I doubt this is going to change with FIFA 17 either. He definitely needs to go Quad-Core.

lfkfkfkffs · Jul 3, 2016

The requirements said i3. I suggested an i3 so it will work just fine.

Gary941 · Jul 3, 2016

Anyone got a cheaper build idea then if I were to use i3 processor for wow and fifa on decent settings ?

lfkfkfkffs · Jul 3, 2016

no rebates

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/N29M8K
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/N29M8K/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($31.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 2GB ITX Compact Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 23MP47HQ 23.0" 60Hz Monitor ($105.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $677.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-03 20:44 EDT-0400

Just add whatever amount for mouse and keyboard

Gary941 · Jul 4, 2016

Anyone think I'd be better using an i5?

n0ns3ns3 · Jul 4, 2016

i3 is good for browsing and office tasks.
While it is possible to play some games on i3, many modern games will be limited by CPU performance (even WoW).
There a re many things like people and moving objects and object interaction (explosion particles, cars crash etc.) and many more things that are calculated on CPU.
The lifespan of your system is significantly shorter. The performance level is significantly lower. and all that to save a 100$?
it is possible to use this low end, unapgradeble MB and go basic i5 that were suggested by
IMHO, i3 gaming machine is wasted money if you have option to go for better.
buying computer for gaming is simple and is pretty close to what you initially did: "you decide what is the budget that you can comfortably afford and get the best of it".

lfkfkfkffs · Jul 4, 2016

The games op plays won't benefit at all from spending more money. In wow he can do anything he wants in the game above 60 frames. I've been playing it for years and an i'3 is just fine. The servers will probably shut down before op needs to upgrade.

Gary941 · Jul 4, 2016

To be honest I'd rather spend the budget I have at the minute which is 850 dollars don't need windows and I don't need a mouse monitor or keyboard included in that

n0ns3ns3 · Jul 4, 2016

getting the best you can comfortably afford is the best way to go

Gary941 · Jul 4, 2016

Yeah true I've that money specifically put away for pc I want one that's able to play those two games I mentioned and maybe others down the line and also one that I can add to in the future or upgrade the parts

Acapella · Jul 4, 2016

Yeah, you literally would lose performance getting an i3. Like he's saying you won't, and you'll get good frames on decent settings. But I don't understand why you'd undercut your own performance to decrease performance. If your budget it $800-$850, I'd spend it. You'll end up getting great performance on both of those titles and any others that you play in the future, plus it'll handle any future titles in the coming couple years very well also. Plug in the 6600k, motherboard, and RAM into my suggestion IMO. I don't know why FIFA and WOW are being treated like League of Legends here. You'll definitely see a difference in performance between the i3 and i5. I wouldn't build a new PC to the minimum requirements of my favorite game.

Gary941 · Jul 4, 2016

Which one into your suggestion sorry bit confused

n0ns3ns3 · Jul 4, 2016

He meant to take the CPU/MB/Ram that i suggested, and the rest from his list

Sorry for confusion, I was too lazy to complete the list when there was a good one except couple of parts,

Gary941 · Jul 4, 2016

This about right ?
PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8nPCyf) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8nPCyf/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx648d/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600k) | $238.99 @ SuperBiiz
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $24.89 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Asus Z170-E ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/k4dFf7/asus-motherboard-z170e) | $85.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/HBjWGX/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m2a2400c16) | $39.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $47.49 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/JTwqqs/evga-video-card-04gp42974kr) | $269.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sB3RsY/rosewill-case-challenger) | $34.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/V9bp99/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr) | $49.67 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $852.00
| Mail-in rebates | -$60.00
| **Total** | **$792.00**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-07-04 12:02 EDT-0400 |

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