Change Motherboard without reinstalling Win 10

RickDanger · Jul 6, 2016

So I looked over other existing questions but I couldnt find my particular problem, I have this Motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830_M11AA (LGA1155)
so basically it doesnt read a new ram bank when I insert it, its up to 8 gigs or more, 8 for sure I know its because I should get into the UEFI BIOS first and change a thing in there, but unfortunatelly theres no tab there that allows me to do it and people over the internet suggest to update or downgrade the version of the BIOS and I tried.. and still its not there so I don't know how to do it, So.. I bought a new one, its a H81M-P33 from the MSI, the problem its in the motherboard, so I change it, just to have 8 gigs of ram.
I do have legal win 10 in my pc, win 8 was in it when I bought it and I just upgrated to 8.1 and then 10 so its legit, but if I change motherboard I can't reinstall it am I right ? how do I do ? please help me its too much that Im struggling with this motherboard problem. Thanks in advance

Lutfij · Aug 7, 2016

This thread looks like it needs a solution for two systems.
1| You may want to download and install CPU-Z and pass on screenshots of the tabbed information to understand the chipset and platform+CPU.

2| You may want to downgrade to Windows 8/8.1(the one that is of a legitimate licence key) and then upgrade back to Windows 10 after installing it with your new motherboard popped in. The reasoning behind this is that the licence key is bound to your motherboard and in turn is saved on Microsoft's servers so if a board is changed(or essentially anything that isn't on their database in correspondence with your key) it's a new system, requiring a new licence key which for folks who went through the free upgrade path will have to take the long route or just buy the licence and do away with it.

3| I think you picked out the wrong board since your platform should be a 3rd gen core I processor package thus the H7x platform(LGA1155) while the H81 is a 4th gen processor platform(LGA1150). You won't be able to work with it anyway due to socket incompatibility.

RickDanger · Aug 7, 2016

*Edited your post to clean up your tags and images for the rest of the community to see. Hope you don't mind
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Lutfij · Aug 14, 2016

The 6 series chipset was initially launched for the 2nd Gen of Core I processors by Intel and with a certain BIOS update could you drop in a 3rd Gen Core I processors into the socket since the socket was essentially the same thing. You should try and update your BIOS but if that's not possible you should buy an H7x motherboard.

* You forgot to include all the tabbed information as well as the drop down menu's in SPD. I'm also curious about your old and new ram sticks...?

Thank you for selecting my post as the Best Answer but did it truly answer your question?

RickDanger · Aug 14, 2016

Hello, thank you for helping me out. this is the SPD imgur

and the new ram is compatible I checked already and its a Ballistix 8 GB 2 sticks 4 gb each, by crucial they're called sport XT and its DDR3 1600 Mhz which my MOBA fully supports and 1.5v
Also if we can find out a solution for the BIOS or the missing AI Tweaker and xmp, I mean find a way to fix the other slot it would be cool because I know have win10 on flash and I could reinstall changing MOBA but thats a little bit too extreme, and I have an important question. if I buy single 8 GB stick, then would I have 8 gigs ? I mean, the slot that I use right now works just fine so should be okay right ? ( moba supports till 16 or more don't remember if more )
Thank you in advance

Lutfij · Aug 14, 2016

How many slot#'s do you see in the drop down?

Unfortunately we can't just prescribe just about any BIOS for you to flash to since there are a a number of variants to your chipset manufactured under Asus. The wrong BIOS can and will cause your system to brick and leave you with an expensive paper weight. The CPU-Z's motherboard model hasn't been of much help and by the way of your posting style, one out of your(two/four) ram slots is non functional. If you're able to open the side of your chassis and take a picture of your motherboard, it'd help us out in identifying a semblance/close cousin to it and perhaps suggest a replacement board for your system and one where you may be able to add more ram(with the help of more memory slots).

In essence it should support 16GB due to the platform but you not sure isn't very comforting to either you nor me

If you could borrow a DDR3 1600MHz 1x8GB stick of ram from your friend to try out, it could help you live off of it for the time being but it's not going to be the same for your new board.

Don't thank me yet! We're just getting warmed up but you're welcome!

RickDanger · Aug 14, 2016

I m thanking you because you're helping me out, and I apologize about my posting style I m really new to forums and English is not my native language as you probably already noticed, so here's the pictures, And by the way I know its an AI Tweaker/xmp problem because I've read on internet its where you actually change voltage and all the settings about rams and also "turn on" the secondary slot but its not in my BIOS as I said, and I've already tried all the available BIOS versions available for my MOBA on the Asus site, I've downgraded and upgraded it. this is the actual MOBA name if it helps: P8H61-M PRO
( I didn't build it, it is factory assembled ) only managed to put a gt640 for gaming purpose

Lutfij · Aug 14, 2016

1| Your image link doesn't work, perhaps edit it in your previous post? Let me know when you've changed it...?
2| You stating the motherboard's model number is a lot of help! Honest! If only you'd stated that in the first post...

Based off your product's support page you have BIOS updates all the way up to 4802. Now based off of your CPU-Z screenshot, you're on version 0904

Which means your BIOS isn't up to date. I would suggest sticking with only stick of ram, 4GB and then try to update your BIOS. How do you update BIOS, you ask? Simple;
a| Download every version available since 0904(I see 1001 as the successor to it) up to 4802.
b| Open Chapter 2 in your motherboard manual and follow the suggestion outlined in section 2.1.2.
c| You should update your BIOS gradually to avoid bricking it.

3| If both your slots are populated then one of your slots is dead since your CPU-Z screenshot shows you to be running in single channel mode.

4| I'd also look at your PSU since a prebuilt system comes with a bare minimum unit that is meant for powering the entire system as is without any additional hardware upgrades.

5| Off the specification's page

Memory
2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

2 slots with a maximum capacity of 16GB's DDR3 mean that each slot can accept an 8GB stick of DDR3 ram rated at 1333/1600MHz.

Any dual sided DDR3 1600MHz 8GB stick of ram should do you fine.

* It's mobo not Moba. The latter is used to abbreviate a type of gaming while the former is to abbreviate motherboard.

RickDanger · Aug 14, 2016

Hope they work now, and I feel really stupid with computers with you helping me out so much but thats not what I do so its fine!
The reason my BIOS isn't up to date is because for some reason it broke, when I put BIOS files in my flash the BIOS won't read them anymore, it says something like " it failed to read " or something similar, but I did try all the versions in the pasts until it stopped working and AI Tweaker still wasn't there, so I m actually going to give it another try doing exactly how you explained to me.
PSU is 350W which I believe is enough or more.

Lutfij · Aug 14, 2016

Not enough but on the limit of a no name PSU. Your PSU looks like a generic unit which is considered to be the bane of any system.

You should also make sure your USB drive is formatted to FAT32 file system.

The reason my BIOS isn't up to date is because for some reason it broke, when I put BIOS files in my flash the BIOS won't read them anymore, it says something like " it failed to read " or something similar, but I did try all the versions in the pasts until it stopped working...

Then it's highly possible you broke your BIOS if it's not accepting BIOS updates. I would suggest you quit while you're ahead unless you're looking for a reason to buy a new platform/motherboard/system. The board also lacks the heatsinks which is why I'm furthermore skeptical to using BIOS from a support page that shows close semblance to your board. Do it at your own risk as you're going to have to live with a dead system, not us. Tread carefully. Last bit of info on that, usually prebuilt systems contain similar boards but in an OEM badge which means that some or almost all features will be watered down or missing entirely which can also serve as an explanation as to why it's missing(AI Tweaker) in the first place.

Please stop quoting me. I'm the only one here responding and the long posts are causing an eye sore for me when I scroll through your thread. You can type your answer in the blank space at the end of this thread and simply click on Submit.

You might also benefit from cleaning out your system. It will also help prolong the lifespan of your components.

RickDanger · Aug 14, 2016

I m sorry about that, as I said I don't know anything about forums this is my first time ever.
So I think I ll be buying a new 8 GB stick tomorrow, if it works then I'll post it here just to let you know and to everybody who 'll look for a similar problem in the future, if it doesnt I guess I ll be better plain on how to change my motherboard maybe by buying a new PSU because I d need it anyways since its a pre built system or build a brand new PC.
Thank you so much for the help so far.

Lutfij · Aug 14, 2016

No problems

We're working through it!

Buying a new stick of ram, motherboard and a PSU are actually the back bone of an entirely new build. My suggestion would be on building one brand new and probably sell the system on Ebay/Gumtree or hand it down to someone who can make full use of the system as is. It's out grown your needs thus the addage/upgrades. Build it right and live with it for as long as you can. I've got one system I built for my friend and he's on it for about 5 years(it also depends on what you do with the system).

Closure is best + you've already got the hang of the forums ethics

Don't buy a new stick of ram, borrow and see if it shows up in OS and is completely usable. If not the worst thing that can happen is you return it with some time spent/lost but you don't have new a component that will be sold for half the price(presuming).

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