More powerful GPU or CPU?

AJWilman · Jul 10, 2016

Would you rather get:

An AMD CPU with the GTX 1080
or
An I7 6700K and a GTX 1070?

I have no idea which one to do. Seems like I will have to make a trade off either way.

SkyNetRising · Jul 10, 2016

i5-6600(K) with GTX 1070 or GTX 1080.

Hlsgsz · Jul 10, 2016

Intel Xeon E3-1240 V5 + 1070.
AMD is a very bad idea these days, don;t even consider it. You'd better get an i3 6100 than any AMD CPU.

jtk2515 · Jul 10, 2016

Depends do we get to pick what motherboard and CPU cooler? if so I would take the AMD CPU. Put it in a 200$ 990fx motherboard with 2 280 radiators cooling it and bake it. I do not need 120fps. so it should be able to get me 60fps.

In the real world I have a 6700k@4.9ghz and a crappy MSI armor 1070 +80core +180 memory.

AJWilman · Jul 10, 2016

My budget is £1000 for a new build.
The thing is, I only play 1080p currently so I know the GTX1080 would be overkill. It just seems a shame not to get it if my budget allows it.

I'm not too knowledgeable on motherboards. Would this be okay?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01ARHKHMQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Bakua · Jul 10, 2016

Really though, my rule is that if the GPU is a 970 (or better), then you'd need an upgrade to Intel. Any AMD CPU with a 980+ will just bottleneck (even 970), go for the 6700k and 1070. You could also go for a relatively cheaper i5-6500 and still be able to take advantage of the newer socket and DDR4 RAM (maybe have enough for a 1080?)

jtk2515 · Jul 10, 2016

AJWilman :

If your going 1080p go with the fast CPU so you can push your FPS higher. You will get higher fps with a 6700k/1070 then a 8350/1080 in 1080p.

Hlsgsz · Jul 10, 2016

This is what you want:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£267.96 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Kingston ValueRAM 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£51.43 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£409.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £964.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 00:39 BST+0100

AJWilman · Jul 10, 2016

What about this? I already have the PSU from my current build. Just found a 240GB SanDisk SSD in my drawer as well:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pvtCbj

jtk2515 · Jul 10, 2016

AJWilman :

What about this? I already have the PSU from my current build. Just found a 240GB SanDisk SSD in my drawer as well:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LctCbj

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LctCbj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LctCbj/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£293.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£28.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£67.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£68.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£60.89 @ More Computers)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£400.00 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£57.68 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1060.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 00:53 BST+0100

Z170 Motherboard? I would get a Z170 Motherboard as I'm not really into BLCK overclocking. Hlsgsz only recommended it because he had a non k processor in the build.

AJWilman · Jul 10, 2016

jtk2515 :

AJWilman :

Z170 Motherboard? I would get a Z170 Motherboard as I'm not really into BLCK overclocking.

I probably could but it would take me just over budget. Would the MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard not be good enough?

Hlsgsz · Jul 10, 2016

AJWilman :

You need a Z chipset MB in order to overclock. otherwise, just get the 6700 non-K.
The CX PSUa are of poor quality. Such a great build deserves better.
A better CPU cooler.
I trust EVGA alot more than Zotac, and this GPu also has a higher factory overclock.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£293.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£52.37 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£60.89 @ More Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£409.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1053.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 01:03 BST+0100

AJWilman · Jul 10, 2016

Hlsgsz :

AJWilman :

You need a Z chipset MB in order to overclock. otherwise, just get the 6700 non-K.
The CX PSUa are of poor quality. Such a great build deserves better.
A better CPU cooler.
I trust EVGA alot more than Zotac, and this GPu also has a higher factory overclock.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£293.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£52.37 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£60.89 @ More Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£409.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1053.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 01:03 BST+0100

Most of that build I can do. The only problem is that the graphics card is actually out of stock in the UK and there isn't a set date that we might get more. The GPU i selected is back in a couple of days.
I might stick with my PSU as I haven't had any problems with it in 3 years.

jtk2515 · Jul 10, 2016

Just don't be like me and get a cheap 1070. The silicon Gods were not please with me and I wish I had just gotten a 980ti because of the toilet overclock I got.

AJWilman · Jul 10, 2016

jtk2515 :

Sorry to hear that

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01G5DXPKW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
is the one I was actually going to get. It's the founders edition of the card. I'm assuming it should be okay. Its not exactly cheap.

Jaycor11 · Jul 12, 2016

jtk2515 :

Why is the MSI Armour crappy? I was thinking of buying one, I'm currently debating between the MSI 1070 armour at £359 and the EVGA 1070 SC at £409

Hlsgsz · Jul 12, 2016

AJWilman :

Hell, no! Stay away from the Founders Edition crap!
This is in stock and good: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/YpH48d/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1070g1-gaming-8gd

Hlsgsz · Jul 12, 2016

Jaycor11 :

jtk2515 :

Why is the MSI Armour crappy? I was thinking of buying one, I'm currently debating between the MSI 1070 armour at £359 and the EVGA 1070 SC at £409

If you can get teh EVGA SC for £409 grab it wihtout a second thought.

AJWilman · Jul 18, 2016

So I've built the computer but it won't boot to bios. It turns on for about 5 seconds then turns off and keeps repeating this. Any ideas?

Jaycor11 · Jul 18, 2016

AJWilman :

You probably wanna make a new thread for that, but when I first built my PC, I had the same problem. It was caused by the RAM not being pushed in far enough. Take out the RAM and push it in again but make sure it clicks.

Hlsgsz · Jul 18, 2016

What was the final build?
Disconnect everything except CPU, ram and try again.(plug the monitor to the integrated graphics)

Berkin · Jul 18, 2016

Sounds like a PSU issue

AJWilman · Jul 18, 2016

Jaycor11 :

Thanks but I've already swapped the RAM around and it's not made a difference. I've reseated the CPU and it's done nothing.

AJWilman · Jul 18, 2016

Hlsgsz :

I7 6700K
GTX 1070
16GB DDR4 3000mhz RAM
500w PSU
256GB SSD
3TB HDD
Gigabyte Z170 Motherboard

Hlsgsz · Jul 18, 2016

AJWilman :

Cmon, man. The full specs.
And have you tried dlike i posted above?

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