Is this computer any good?

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Johnthebunny

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Case - NZXT Phantom 410 Black
Additional Case Fans - No Additional Fans
Noise Reduction - Noise Reduction Level 1 - Optimize Fans
Internal Lighting - Ironside RGB LED Strip
Processor - Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Quad Core)
CPU Cooling - Asetek 570LC High Performance Liquid Cooling
Thermal Compound - Arctic MX4 High Performance Thermal Compound
Liquid Coolant Refill Bottle - 1 Quart UV Green
PC Liquid Coolant - UV Green
Liquid Cooling Tubing Color - *Requires Iron Tundra Liquid Cooling Systems
Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-H170-D3HP
Overclocking Processor - Stock Speed
Overclock Protection Warranty - None
Overclocking Graphics Card - Stock Speed
Memory - 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2800Mhz
M.2 Storage - None
Primary Hard Drive - 2TB
Secondary Hard Drive - None
Optical Drive - DVD Writer
Graphics Card - Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 8GB (Min. 500 Watt Power Supply)
Graphics Card Cooling - Stock GPU Cooler
Power Supply - [Modular] Corsair RM Series RM850 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold
Operating System - Windows 10 64 Bit
Networking - Standard Onboard Ethernet (No Wi-fi)
Sound Card - Integrated HD Audio






Just wondering if this computer is any good, I'm about to buy it.
 
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Martell1977
Bit of a mismatch there, the 6700k CPU is unlocked for overclocking and costs more for that ability. However, you have a H170 motherboard which is not the chipset for overclocking.

You should either change the CPU to a 6700 (non-k) or change the motherboard to a Z170.
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Bit of a mismatch there, the 6700k CPU is unlocked for overclocking and costs more for that ability. However, you have a H170 motherboard which is not the chipset for overclocking.

You should either change the CPU to a 6700 (non-k) or change the motherboard to a Z170.
 
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Johnthebunny

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$1,815
 
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Johnthebunny

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And also, why would you not use a liquid cooler? Should I switch to a fan?
 
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Off the top of my head:

CPU - $350
Motherboard - $100
Power supply - $100
Video card - $550
RAM - $70
Hard drive - $60

Subtotal: $1230

This lacks case, cooler, and Windows license, but it looks like there's around a $4-500 markup. For that price, it's not a good PC, and I disagree with their configuration options too.
 
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Johnthebunny

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How much better would overclocking this GPU be compared to the non-overclocked version? I can get the Z170 if I want but I just want to know if it is worth it.
 
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Liquid cooling is more expensive, more nosiy, and less reliable than air cooling. It requires regular maintenance, and has a chance of destroying your entire PC with a leak - a pretty good chance. The pump will eventually die, and they're expensive to replace. I watercooled for more than a decade, and I was relieved the day I sold it all. A good air cooler can perform just as well, with less noise, and less risk.
 
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Johnthebunny

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What SSD size would you recommend? 120gb or 250gb? I'm kind of against going above the $1.9k mark.
 
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Ecky

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My recommended changes:

i7 6700 non-K (comes with a cooler)
Same motherboard
16GB DDR4 2400mhz or 2133mhz (you can't use 2800 without a Z170 motherboard)
Same video card
250GB or 512GB SSD - if getting the 512 means you don't need a spinning hard drive at all, go for it
550-650w power supply


You don't bother with an aftermarket cooler at all if you're getting a non-K CPU. If you find you want one to cut down on noise, come back for a recommendation, but the stock cooler is plenty adequate for a CPU that can't be overclocked.

When I said subtotal $1230, I mean that's the value of the parts you listed. $1815 is way too high.
 
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Johnthebunny

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Yeah they charge for labor, I don't trust myself in putting together a pc. :(
The new subtotal is $1,719 and my new specs are:

Case - NZXT Phantom 410 Black
Additional Case Fans - No Additional Fans
Noise Reduction - Noise Reduction Level 1 - Optimize Fans
Internal Lighting - Ironside RGB LED Strip
Processor - Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz (Quad Core)
CPU Cooling - Standard Heatsink
Thermal Compound - Standard Thermal Compound
PC Liquid Coolant - *Requires Iron Tundra Liquid Cooling Systems
Liquid Coolant Refill Bottle - *Requires Iron Tundra Liquid Cooling Systems
Liquid Cooling Tubing Color - *Requires Iron Tundra Liquid Cooling Systems
Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-H170-D3HP
Overclocking Processor - Stock Speed
Overclock Protection Warranty - None
Overclocking Graphics Card - Stock Speed
Memory - 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400Mhz
M.2 Storage - None
Primary Hard Drive - 2TB
Secondary Hard Drive - Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
Optical Drive - DVD Writer
Graphics Card - Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 8GB (Min. 500 Watt Power Supply)
Graphics Card Cooling - Stock GPU Cooler
Power Supply - [Modular] Corsair Enthusiast Series RM650 650 Watt 80 Plus Gold
Operating System - Windows 10 64 Bit
Networking - Internal Wireless N 300Mbps
Sound Card - Integrated HD Audio

I added an SSD and used the stock cooler for the non-k i7, I also kept the motherboard and changed the ram to a 2400mhz.
 
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Looks much better, not paying for things you don't need. Liquid cooling is better only if you plan to do some serious overclocking.

As for overclocking, It's mostly unneeded, it can increase FPS in some games, but in many games it's the GPU that counts the most. The system as it's configured looks much better, albeit overpriced. You could probably order the parts and pay a local shop like $50-100 to assemble it for you.
 
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Putting together a PC is little harder than putting together a piece of furniture from Ikea. I did it myself without direction for the first time at 9 years old. Do what's comfortable for you, but know that you could save a few hundred dollars by watching a YouTube video.
 
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