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Approximate Purchase Date: In about a month or two

Budget Range: CAD$3000.00 The lower the better

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Streaming/Video editing, watching movies, Surfing internet

Games: Arma3, BF, Blizzard games etc.

Are you buying a monitor: Got one but i will probably be buying another one later so i can have duel monitor setup



Parts to Upgrade:

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca

Location: AB, Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel, Nvida , Corsair, Asus

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe (Leaning towards SLI)

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 Probably going to upgrade to 1440p later on

Additional Comments: For this build im trying to make it look pretty nice so i plan on adding some LEDs.
Also if i could try to make this PC run quiet that would be nice.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My last computer broke.

Computer components pick already: (Willing to sub parts in or out)

{FIXED) http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q6x9JV - Some items i picked out


CPU:
Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler:
Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Memory:
G.Skill TridentX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory

Storage:
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Using from old build)
Seagate Enterprise NAS 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Using from old build)

Video Card:
Going to use my (EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card) until the GTX1080TI is released (Using from old build)

Case:
Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case

Power Supply: Not yet selected

Optical Drive:
Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Using from old build)

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit


**Old Build/broken computer**
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ssLZK8 -Linked it just in case you guys needed to see it

So im building my third computer and im looking for a little bit of help.


Other thoughts:

Does it really matter if you put a radiator for liquid cooling on a side. Ive always put them on the top of the case?

Not really 100% decided on a case ive been looking at some thermal-take cases since there build for liquid cooling and have tons of room for radiator. So if you
Know of any good case i would be interested to hear.












 
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Yeah I agree, that is a good point. Games won't benefit much from having the hex core CPU (unless you're running VR but that's a whole different can of worms), but video editing and rendering definitely will. I wouldn't worry about add in cards because things...
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As far as core system goes, with your budget, I would definitely recommend Skylake. So the following system is without GPU and Storage. Waiting for 1080 Ti isn't a bad idea, but you might be waiting a while.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($449.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($134.98 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($289.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($85.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case ($232.33 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($183.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($124.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1502.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 03:19 EDT-0400
 
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I'm confused!
So i should look at @mo5final first link, what he thinks to buy - https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ right ?
And @apk24 suggests Skylake, which is already in his first link ?
Second link is your old build mo5final right ?

About case, you could look @ Phanteks Enthoo Primo.http://www.phanteks.com/enthoo-primo.html
If you look around, you could probably find a color that suits you, also this case will fit your dream water cooling.
About fans that you chose 120mm ones link is for 280mm rad.
I would suggest you to look @ noctua for those prices and or corsair/sp120/140 since they have a bigger choice in colors( rings can be diff colors and/or sprayed easily).
Your PSU will restrict you to bottom mount 280mm RAD : https://youtu.be/-LHjJ8sPe_8?t=34m53s
Check it to see what i mean. Also top rad cant be push & pull @ 60mm in Switch 810.
Why did i saw 980 ti in your link ? Better go for 1070 or as you said wait for 1080TI.
1070 OC vs 980 TI oc difference is roughly 4% +- depends on games.
They aren't that much different, except that 1070 requires less power for the same bucks ?

 
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ isan't a permalink. It points to whatever build you're currently working on. Sharing it with others just takes them to whatever build they're working on.

Permalinks have a code after list, like this: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TBRFtJ
 
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Thanks for your reply and sorry about my late reply.

Why do you reckon a skylake?

Also my research could be wrong but it seems that the I7 4790K excels in performance.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K



 
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Thanks for your reply and sorry about my late reply.

And yeah sorry, i accidentally used the wrong link for PCPartpicker but all of it was written on the page anyways.

Also i look at some of the cases that you linked and i might get one of those they look pretty good and roomy.
 
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Skylake has about a 10% improvement in performance over equivalent Haswell/Devil's Canyon processors. I wouldn't put too much stock in cpuboss's scoring as most reputable hardware reviewers have found that i7-6700k beats i7-4790k by about 5-15% in CPU benchmarks (depending on which benchmark and the rest of the system). There is really little difference between the two in most gaming benchmarks, because at this level the GPU is probably the bottleneck.

The skylake Z170 chipset also supports better and newer technologies and features such as more USB ports, PCIE 3.0 from the chipset, DMI 3 (a faster link between CPU and everything else), etc. Overall, given the lack of a price difference between the old and the new, it's kind of a no brainer to select skylake for a brand new build. It's also a nice little bonus that Skylake overclocks much better and runs cooler than Haswell and Devil's Canyon.

Following are the product comparisons from intel's ARK
Z170 (Skylake) vs Z97 (Haswell)
i7-6700k(Skylake) vs i7-4790k(Haswell Refresh/Devil's Canyon)


Tom's Review on the Skylake unlocked processors:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skylake-intel-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k,4252-5.html

Anandtech review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation

Futuremark Bench results:
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/cpu/Intel+Core+i7-6700K/review

PassMark bench results:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-6700K+%40+4.00GHz


Edit: Looked at cpuboss again, for some reason it gives 4790k a higher score despite in the benchmark results, 6700k is superior. So, yeah. Wouldn't trust that a whole lot. Great for comparing raw specs of AMD cpus and apus (since they don't have anything like Intel's ARK) but useless for actually making value decisions.
 
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Those benchmarks are outdated and CPU Boss is not the be-all, end-all when it comes to CPU benchmarks. Their testing methods are very questionable at best. You always want the latest technology because spending your kind of budget on an outdated platform will not ensure your system will last as long as one that does.

On your budget I would go Broadwell-E over Sky Lake especially if you plan to upgrade to 4K or VR as system requirements for both are pretty demanding. I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($559.25 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($76.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($269.99 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.88 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($220.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.93 @ Vuugo)
Case: Corsair 760T White V2 ATX Full Tower Case ($206.62 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1653.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 00:35 EDT-0400
 
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That didn't even occur to me. I live in the US and the whole converting CAD to USD in my head went wonky and I didn't even realize Broadwell E was well within budget.

Broadwell-E definitely makes the most sense, disregard my previous recommendation.
 
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I'd definitely suggest taking a look at the 6800K before making any final decisions. Especially if your long term plans include VR or 4K.
 
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I actually thought we were talking about the 6700K for some reason. But now that im looking in them i cant find any that are 4.0Ghz there all 3.4 and im not really into OC
 
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I actually thought we were talking about the 6700K for some reason. But now that im looking in them i cant find any that are 4.0Ghz there all 3.4 and im not really into OC
 
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The drop from 4GHz to 3.4GHz shouldn't be a deal breaker, IMO. The step up from 4 cores to 6 cores will make a sizable difference in your video editing and multi-tasking performance. You'll get quad channel ddr4 vs dual channel ddr4 (faster RAM), and more PCIe lanes (can have more add in cards like Video cards, sound cards, network cards, etc). Most people who are planning on doing video editing (and similar tasks) would consider the upgrade from 6700k to 6800k a good idea.

OCing Broadwell-E is supposed to be easier and better than previous generations, but I haven't actually done it (not rich enough) so I won't make any definitive comments.
 
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Yeah I agree, that is a good point. Games won't benefit much from having the hex core CPU (unless you're running VR but that's a whole different can of worms), but video editing and rendering definitely will. I wouldn't worry about add in cards because things like network cards and sound cards - most motherboards have those things built in already and it's pointless to buy extra.
 
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