Super cheap build

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

How will this run at 1080p? Will it do med-high at good frame rates?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/s8wkd6

Xtergo · Jul 11, 2016

NOOOOOO! Don't go with that processor, Surprisingly the virtually Quad Core i3 works really well and you will have the path to upgrade to better processors in the future. Switch to intel.

Another thing is get a single stick of 8gb ram not two of 4 gigabytes.
Toshiba HDDs die quickly.
and that power supply is insanely low quality.
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KjQfHN
Here is an improved version of that build, If it is getting out of budget change ram from 16GB to 8GB.

Wait for the sapphire custom PCB edition RX 480 to release, although the problems with the reference revision are fixed the board partner versions perform better, Get the PC now Graphics card later.

CBender · Jul 11, 2016

Yes and no. The cpu is going to be a bottle neck for the 480. Beyond that it is fine. And yes it should handle 1080p adequately. I would try to go for an i5 though. Preferably hasswell gen. The difference in performance between the 2 cpu is quite substantial.

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

CBender :

This is my Intel version, ignore the PSU I'm still deciding on what to go for and the GPU will be either a 480 or 1060

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FTKPsJ

CTurbo · Jul 11, 2016

This would be much better and more reliable.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£98.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.31 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£30.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series

T01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£49.20 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £531.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I would not get a reference design 480 though. Wait for the 3rd party cards to come out.

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

CTurbo :

This would be much better and more reliable.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£98.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.31 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£30.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series

T01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£49.20 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £531.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 23:50 BST+0100

I would not get a reference design 480 though. Wait for the 3rd party cards to come out.

Yeah I'm waiting for those, the 1060's and maybe even zen if it's coming out October as per rumours.

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

Here is an ITX version with everything you need.
The power supply i've put in is high quality and comes in at a better price than most good quality PSUs in the UK.
Keep in mind it is also ITX with on board wifi, so I will create another build that isn't ITX if that is something you desire.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jzdr6X
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jzdr6X/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£98.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£75.03 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£63.59 @ More Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case (£48.48 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £604.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Xtergo · Jul 11, 2016

If you are going for the i5 don't go near the 6400, sometimes performs worse then the Pentium G.
You should spend more on a 6500 or a 6600.

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

ATX Version
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jPdr6X
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jPdr6X/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£98.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£46.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£63.59 @ More Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £572.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-11 23:57 BST+0100

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

Both of the above builds should get you very high-maxed settings at 1080p 60fps depending on how demanding the game is.
The Witcher for example is something which you might need to turn a few things down for, but most other games should be just fine.

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

Chugalug_ :

I was actually looking at itx but couldn't find a good MB. I might swap the case, increase the memory to 2TB and sort stuff out colour wise but that seems good. How does the i3 perform in games like doom and specutavly the new skyrim?

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

CTurbo :

I personally am very skeptical about Toshiba internal HDDs, as 2/3 of my toshiba drives that I bought died within a year and a half.
I'd just stick with a WD Blue 1TB, as it is still 7200RPM and offers the best performance for the price imo.

CTurbo · Jul 11, 2016

You never actually said what you budget is. If you can swing this, it would be awesome. If not, my i3 build above it your best bet.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.35 @ Kustom PCs)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.31 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£30.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£49.20 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £625.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 00:05 BST+0100

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

LordVile :

Chugalug_ :

I was actually looking at itx but couldn't find a good MB. I might swap the case, increase the memory to 2TB and sort stuff out colour wise but that seems good. How does the i3 perform in games like doom and specutavly the new skyrim?

Think of CPU performance as, if it doesn't bottleneck the GPU and runs stable, its a good CPU.
They typically have very minimal impact on the performance of games in terms of extra power not being used.
It will perform very well, as it will not bottleneck the GPU in most games, so you should be able to max out both these games at 1080p and get great framerates.
Something like GTA V however, which is more intensive as is the case with all open world games may push the i3 very hard, so that is something to consider if you want to spend the extra money to get an i5.

CTurbo · Jul 11, 2016

I personally am very skeptical about Toshiba internal HDDs, as 2/3 of my toshiba drives that I bought died within a year and a half.
I'd just stick with a WD Blue 1TB, as it is still 7200RPM and offers the best performance for the price imo.

I have only ever had one Toshiba drive fail on me. I'm using two 2TB Toshibas in my HTPC and they're still fine after 3 years. Either way, the WD Blue is only 5 more.

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

CTurbo :

I'm a student so my idea is build the bulk of the PC (everything but GPU) out of the spare money I get after my first loan amount so I'm looking at £400-500 (including OS) for that and then another £200 + whatever I've saved later on for the GPU. I'm not sure on grants and stuff yet so I'm iffy on the budget.

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

Chugalug_ :

LordVile :

Think of CPU performance as, if it doesn't bottleneck the GPU and runs stable, its a good CPU.
They typically have very minimal impact on the performance of games in terms of extra power not being used.
It will perform very well, as it will not bottleneck the GPU in most games, so you should be able to max out both these games at 1080p and get great framerates.
Something like GTA V however, which is more intensive as is the case with all open world games may push the i3 very hard, so that is something to consider if you want to spend the extra money to get an i5.

Yeah I hate GTA so that's fine

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

CTurbo :

Haha, just said the same thing.

An i5 is definitely worth the investment in the long run, as the extra 60 pounds or so will allow you to push games much harder and do a little multi tasking.
To be honest for me personally its a little hard to recommend the 6600 as even though the difference is only 10 pounds, there is only a 0.1GHz difference between the two, which doesn't really scream value, and gives virtually no performance gain in real world use.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZ7pGf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZ7pGf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£180.25 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£46.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£63.59 @ More Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £653.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The extra 8GB of RAM is something you should seriously consider. You're paying a little extra to get what is quickly becoming the norm in system memory, as now games such as mirrors edge catalyst are recommending 16GB of RAM over the 8 which was more than enough a few years ago. Even if you decide to go with Turbo's build, it is worth getting that extra set of memory he has listed, as for the price that's still a good deal.
All in all something like the build I have listed above will be perfect for you.

CTurbo · Jul 11, 2016

I usually recommend the 6500 over the 6600, but in the UK, the 6600 is only £8 more.

The 6600 is 300mhz faster in turbo speed. 3.6ghz vs 3.9ghz. I feel like it's worth the extra £8.

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

LordVile :

Chugalug_ :

LordVile :

Think of CPU performance as, if it doesn't bottleneck the GPU and runs stable, its a good CPU.
They typically have very minimal impact on the performance of games in terms of extra power not being used.
It will perform very well, as it will not bottleneck the GPU in most games, so you should be able to max out both these games at 1080p and get great framerates.
Something like GTA V however, which is more intensive as is the case with all open world games may push the i3 very hard, so that is something to consider if you want to spend the extra money to get an i5.

Yeah I hate GTA so that's fine

Even if you hate GTA, in most open world games this will be a common factor, and even in use with other applications, you will likely notice the i3 struggling at times if you have a lot of web tabs and a high demand game running, which can become an annoyance over time.
Its a good safety net to just get the i5 6600, as it will be futureproof for YEARS to come, as a pose to the i3 which will most likely be phased out by Cannonlake (7th Gen CPUs).

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

CTurbo :

Aaah, righto forgot about the boost clocks!

Yeah it definitely seems like it would be worth it, don't mind me. ^.^

LordVile · Jul 11, 2016

Chugalug_ :

LordVile :

Even if you hate GTA, in most open world games this will be a common factor, and even in use with other applications, you will likely notice the i3 struggling at times if you have a lot of web tabs and a high demand game running, which can become an annoyance over time.
Its a good safety net to just get the i5 6500, as it will be futureproof for YEARS to come, as a pose to the i3 which will most likely be phased out by Cannonlake (7th Gen CPUs).

Chugalug_ :

So say I did the first itx build and subbed a 6600 in for the i3 everything would be a-ok? Also! Any idea where to get a W10 on the cheap if there is such a thing.

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

LordVile :

Chugalug_ :

So say I did the first itx build and subbed a 6600 in for the i3 everything would be a-ok? Also! Any idea where to get a W10 on the cheap if there is such a thing.

You can get it through Kinguin for 20 bucks or something like that from memory. Not sure if the deal is still on, but you're welcome to try!
Be aware that you may want to pay for their buyer protection as Kinguin is a key reseller site, so the legitimacy of your key may be questionable.

Here is your final build by the way.
I noticed that there was the Phanteks Evolv ITX case on the cheap compared to its normal price, so i've put that in due to high build quality and very good design. Well worth the low cost imo but you can change it out if you really feel like it.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JcK29W
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JcK29W/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.35 @ Kustom PCs)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£75.03 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£63.59 @ More Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case (£49.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £694.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 00:29 BST+0100

CTurbo · Jul 11, 2016

You want a mini build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.35 @ Kustom PCs)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150N Phoenix-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£76.96 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£32.87 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Tower Case (£35.49 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £643.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 00:31 BST+0100

Chugalug_ · Jul 11, 2016

CTurbo :

You want a mini build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.35 @ Kustom PCs)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150N Phoenix-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£76.96 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£32.87 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Tower Case (£35.49 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £643.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 00:31 BST+0100

Add another 8GB of RAM and this is a good example of a build for if you want to cut down on cost a little.

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