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I have done hours and hours of research and defining of terms and words to figure out a build .. i need help to see if i should change things and if they are good for each other and so on..

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CCNgwV

I am Going to wait a month until the new graphics cards come out, hopefully some prices drop and then i will wait for my more expensive items to go down on the charts. That is when i will buy
 
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Most of those cheap SSDs are just that - cheap. I'd personally rather pay the extra money for a Crucial or Samsung SSD as those generally tend to be...
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Hlsgsz

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An excellent build, except for two things:
- better SSD for less
- the GTX 1060 6GB will be the card to get, not the 970

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($72.27 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($173.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.68 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.95 @ Amazon)
Other: GTX 1060 ($250.00)
Total: $1215.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 13:56 EDT-0400
 
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I am one of those that thinks that overclocking has become highly overrated (it's not like it used to be), so would say an i7 for gaming AND recording/streaming and huge MMOs.....among others, make it worth it. They also tend to have the most staying power.

A much better SSD at this budget level and a PSU that could handle a second 970 (or 1070 if you go that route) would be worth it too:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-E ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1108.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 
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To be honest, i kind of agree on overclocking beeing overrated and would personally much rather have an i7 instead aswell.
But, if not overclocking, i would go with a Xeon build,a dn with teh money saved up the GPU to a GTX 1070.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V5 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($269.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-X150M-PLUS WS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.48 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.68 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1239.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 14:29 EDT-0400

OP, the Xeon is equivalent to an i7 6700, and this last build would game alot better than what you were intending to get. Not to mention far superiour performance in streaming/recording and productivity stuff(rendering, editing etc.)
 
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I used to love the same trick (still think the 1231v3 is one of the best values out there), but with the C232 chipset you don't have the benefit of SLI/CrossFire in the future.

A home-built PC should ideally preserve the most options for you going forward, and unless you're absolutely positive that multi-GPU is never going to be in your future......I have a harder time recommending E3 v5's (Skylake Xeons).

It seems Intel wised up to smart consumers and slammed the door for Xeons 'unnecessarily' creeping into the mainstream segment.
 
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Yeah i personally don't go for multi-card configs anymore. But what you said is only somewhat true.
The Shipsets can do SLI and CF. It's more like the manufacturers are closing tehse doors by demanding high prices for these:
The GA-X150M-PRO ECC can do CF.
The MSI C236A WORKSTATION can do both SLI and CF.

Honestly, I'm hoping cheaper cards will get released that do these(competitive in price to their z170 counterparts). After all, SLi MBs demand a premium on the "normal" platform aswell.
 
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C236 chip set do, but most (all?) C232 boards are using x4 speeds for CrossFire, which isn't ideal, and SLI is just plain out. Again great for single GPU setups, but I dislike the totally unnecessary limiting of options.

I hope as well to get away from multi-GPU setups someday, but as I'm always pushing the boundary at home, as soon as I have a single GPU that will run 3 x 4k screens......8k will take over my consciousness. For now I'd just be happy for a single GPU that would fully drive 3 x 2k screens!

Thankfully I only have this one expensive hobby......

I could be into boating or fast cars, so I guess there are worse things :)
 
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Ha! Nice one :)))
 
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i am not going to b7uy from other places other than newegg and amazon. i just dont trust them and what is wrond with the ssD
 
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The V300 Series si to be avoided as they have a bad reputation. PNY 1311 is a safer, cheaper bet.

Some qquestions before i give you my final thoughts that stemmed from my exchange with Geekwad:
- are you sure you want to overclock adn wouldn't you prefer to have an i7 for better streaming/recording performance and all around better productivity
- so you ever want to use a two GPU setup? even if having the possibility on the table costs you about $70?
 
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Most of those cheap SSDs are just that - cheap. I'd personally rather pay the extra money for a Crucial or Samsung SSD as those generally tend to be the best of the best. And I wouldn't buy a 970 right now with the 1060 being made available relatively soon. I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.64 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Other: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 ACX 3.0 ($259.99)
Total: $1152.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-12 19:12 EDT-0400
 
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