Are there any GOOD X99 Motherboards?

Chaingunchris

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I just came from an asrock x99 extreme 4/3.1 because it just died, I'm trying to RMA the board but it's coming to close to the deadline of Windows 10. So I've been looking for another motherboard. It seems like all these X99 boards are S***. I swear I will never buy another asrock product again. any suggestions? I prefer asus, gigabyte or msi
 
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Scary user reviews ... much worse than the board you have now with 35% giving it 1 egg as compared to your board's 22%

As for taking reviews with a grain of salt, there's certainly a lot of logic there. However, whatever factors lead people to post, there is certainly no logic behind a belief that they pick on one brand more than any other.

So when we see a board with 75% 5 eggs and 5% 1 egg like the MSI XPower Titanium and compare it say with the Asus Hero with just 53% 5 eggs and 26% 1 egg...
Are there any good Z170 boards? In seriousness, all electronic products carry that risk (regardless of brand). I've had no issues with AsRock boards myself. As to reviews, it seems like negative reviews are overstated on retail sites. If overall failure rates were as bad as the rates indicated in customer ratings, it'd be a small miracle the industry is as strong as it is. When products do fail, the customer is more motivated to complain, so I'd take the number (and %) of crappy reviews with a grain of salt.

It does suck that you have to replace a board though.
 
The X99 Extreme 4 does have a fairly decent user rating ... well compared to everyone else ... and ya can't really expect much out of a $139 board. To my eyes the results for the low cost boards are skewed a bit by board owners just happy to have an X99 board that works at that price.

5 eggs - 47% (54)
4 eggs - 20% (23)
3 eggs - (7)
2 eggs - 4% (5)
1 egg 22% (25)

We build high end CAD and Gaming boxes and just haven't found a reason to use X99. The "lackluster enthusiasm" and lack of a performance advantage we have seen for the last 3 generations is a big part of that such that the only time we considered X99 would be for builds with 3 / 4 GFX cards.

Boards I'd consider:

MSI Gaming Pro Carbon $329
Gigabyte GA-X99 Ultra Gaming $279


 

Chaingunchris

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I was looking at the asus strix ROG motherboard, the black theme goes with my build and it has an extra power connector for the CPU. There's also an m.2 slot that's not crushed behind the first pcie slot like this damn asrock board.
 



Scary user reviews ... much worse than the board you have now with 35% giving it 1 egg as compared to your board's 22%

As for taking reviews with a grain of salt, there's certainly a lot of logic there. However, whatever factors lead people to post, there is certainly no logic behind a belief that they pick on one brand more than any other.

So when we see a board with 75% 5 eggs and 5% 1 egg like the MSI XPower Titanium and compare it say with the Asus Hero with just 53% 5 eggs and 26% 1 egg ratings ... it's obvious that 5 times as many people are extremely disappointed with their Asus Hero purchase than are MSI Xpower Titanium owners.

Overall RMA rates can be deceiving:

-2.2% sounds a lot worse than 2.0% (10% greater) but looking at it from the other side, that's 98% versus 97.8% or just 0.2% worse.
-Looking at it this way is 978 good boards versus 980 out of 1,000
-Looking at it another way. A basketball team that wins 98 to 97 hasn't actually "trounced the competition".

So that's why I don't find the overall company RMA rates to be significant. This last measurement cycle, they finished;

2016-05-15 = 1. Gigabyte, 2. AsRock, 3. Asus, 4. MSI
2015-05-19 = 1. Asus, 2. AsRock, 3. MSI, 4. Gigabyte
2014-06-11 = 1. Gigabyte 2. MSI, 3. Asus, 4. AsRock,

With the numbers separating the brand's overall performance being so small, who finishes where could easily depend on typical statistical variations or just 1 bad model line. What I think is more important is to focus on the failure rate of individual model lines.... anything significantly above 2.5% should be avoided.

Boards Id therefore avoid would include:

7,76% ASUS Rampage V Extreme X99
7,50% MSI Z97 Gaming 7
5,63% ASROCK 980DE3/U3S3 R2.0
5,02% MSI 970 Gaming
4,90% ASUS Z170-A
4,79% ASUS Z170 PRO Gaming
4,32% MSI Z97-G45 Gaming
3,00% ASUS Maximus VII Formula Z97


Let's also look at the failure rate by chipset

4,55% X99
3,36% Z170
2,09% Z87/Z97
2,20% H87/H97
1,48% B85
1,03% H81

Have to also take into account, How many of those RMAs were the caused by user action ? Have to also recognize that the Z87 / Z97 numbers are low for example because they have had a long run. 1st stepping boards make up a substantial part of the Z170 numbers and with 2nd, 3rd etc stepping boards "fixing" most of the problems of earlier steppings, they are bound to be more reliable. That's why I like to wait 3 or more months to take advantage of the fact that those users who went out and bought those early steppings and endured those problems / failures (thanks guys) resulted in me getting a a better board.

 
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king6565_

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stay away from asus PERIOD new asrock motherboards coming out x99 taichi and x99 fatal1ty pro i7