Swap Radeon for Sapphire Radeon without driver changes? And upgrade advice

bonapartist

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Jul 14, 2016
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Hello, this is my first post, this seems like such a great community and I'm really grateful for any advice I get. My system is a 5 year old Dell XPS 8300 with i7 2600k, 8gb ram, Radeon 5770, 460W PSU, 1tb HDD. I am really a novice.

1. Can I swap out a Radeon 5770 with a 5770 sapphire vapor x model without any changes to drivers, bios, etc.? I believe my Radeon 5770 has failed, and I have the Sapphire-Vapor X from another PC I just purchased on the cheap. Can I just slot it in and see if my XPS will stop artifacting and crashing? If not, how do I swap between the two, software/firmware wise?

2. Can my system, with its current Dell-branded PSU, support a GTX 760 safely? I know I'm on the edge but it is difficult finding a good answer. Also I know this motherboard is choosy about cards but I know both the 750 TI and the 760 will work from what I've read, and while the 760 is more powerful, they seem to have same resale on used market.



For more detail on my problem, I was playing Guns of Icarus one night when I have a horrible crash, looping audio and black screen, I could feel it was bad. System then refused to output video upon reboots. Upon reading up advice I pulled the PSU cord, held the power button for 60+ seconds, tried to reboot but no display. Then I pulled keyboard; on boot I got a keyboard error and computer booted normally. Now the system will run for about 5 or 20 minutes before artifcating and then crashing, or if I put a fan on the computer with the case side off, it will crash after 1 to 3 hours. Any attempt to play 3d intensive games results in artifacting/crashing within 5 or 10 minutes of gameplay, with desk fan. I have blown out the GPU's cooler fan (which was a mess, I'm ashamed), but have not reapplied TIM, something I'm building up the courage to do. Does it sound like it's my GPU that's in distress, and not any other part of my system? From what I've read artifacting means it is most likely the GPU and the GPU was the only fan that was caked and it was frankly running at about 95C when gaming... Oi, so ashamed.

I have gotten several BSODs apparently related to this instead of crashes, sometimes the BSODs themselves have artifacting. Critical information reads 0x000000EA (0xfffffA8006A6EB50, then all 000s for other codes.

System was very stable and dependable before that fateful crash.
 

COLGeek

Cybernaut
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Swapping one 5770 for another should be a non-issue. I would still recommend cruising over to amd.com and downloading and installing the latest set of drivers after the swap. Otherwise, I see no challenges here.

Running a GTX 760 should also be a non-issue. You will want to remove the AMD drivers before installing the Nvidia GPU. Once again, get the latest drivers from nvidia.com and install them if this in the direction you go.

Good luck, either way.
 

bonapartist

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Jul 14, 2016
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Thank you for your help Colgeek. The autoupdate utility from AMD says that my drivers are all up to date. I'll get out the old antistatic wristband and do the swap, and since the 760 will run with my 460w PSU, I'll probably get the upgrade because the fella will let it go for only $70, seems like a good deal. Thank you sir.
 

bonapartist

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Jul 14, 2016
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Hello, I've swapped the card for the Vapor Sapphire model, but the computer does not recognize the card. I'm connnected to the same old Element 32 inch 1080p television with a DVI-VGA adapter to DVI, but the system defaults to 800x600 and speccy lists the graphics line as "Standard monitor," device manager calls it Video controller (VGA compatible). I have rebooted several times. No crashing, no artifacting, so I assume the old card was the issue. Resolutions available are all wonky and out of bounds beyond a certain point like 1980X1440. I assume the card is seated properly if I'm displaying through its DVI port? And I wanted to just make it clear that I didn't have a total brain fart and plug into the higher-up, onboard VGA or anything like that. The new card was working perfectly in the inexpensive system core 2 duo system I bought it for.

Trying to open catalyst gives me this error

"AMD catalypst control center cannot be started. There are currently no settings that can be configured using AMD (CCC)"

Using the AMD supplied autodetect utility leaves it with a message saying "we were unable to find a driver for your system. No supported AMD hardware was detected."

This is the relevant AMD page http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy3&os=Windows+7+-+64 should I uninstall my catalyst and reinstall the version they list?
Help!
 

bonapartist

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Jul 14, 2016
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Thank you ColGeek, that worked perfectly. After reinstall and reboot, I'm at full resolution and things seem to be working fine with no artifacting or crashing, not even a keyboard not found error. Speccy sees the card and also my ram which was mysteriously absent before.

That 5770 was a trooper in a Dell coffin with bad ventilation for like 6 years, I really can't complain that it failed given those facts.

I got a $45 GTX 760 that I will install in the coming days, and will put the Sapphire back into the Core 2 Duo, while the Radeon 5770 will end up on Ebay as a non operational item. From what I've read the 460W psu is up to the task of the 760 and the otherwise-choosy Dell bios plays nice with it, too.

Thank you sincerely for your help ColGeek.