Monster PC (Are these parts suitable what could I change)

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So I've been looking to spend a large amount of money on something I've been wanting to buy for years now. A gaming PC so I heard about the GTX 1080 and seen that Ironside updated their store I just would like to know If everything is 100% compatible or if there is anything I can change. Please DO NOT suggest I build my own PC, I have been a console player for years, and I wouldn't have a clue on how to build a PC.

This is the link to the PC specs:
https://gyazo.com/25293ff39ed3d0ea8d3bbf2617ce98d3
 
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That build is ridiculously priced, plus there's many points where it's got very poor component selection. You'd actually see worse performance (as a gaming rig) that something that costs less than half the price - think i5-6600K + 1080.

*The 5820K is not really suited for gaming. The additional cores are nice & all, but at the (significant) expense of clock speed - which can matter substantially in games.

*That's a completed overkill motherboard, and amount of RAM (again, for gaming)

*I'd hate to think how much these places attribute as a cost for Overclocking - something these 'boutique' builders rarely get right/stable anyway.

A quick crunch of the numbers, and you/I/anyone (paying full retail/consumer prices) could build that...
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lol it's so hard to NOT recommend you build your own considering you could do it and save yourself hundreds and hundreds of $$$$ and get a better setup.

Could there possibly be somebody or a local business that could build it for you???


Ok ok sorry... it would be a good PC obviously. Could I recommend such a thing? No. I'm sorry I just can't.


And I apologize if this was not helpful to you. I just can't pass this by without giving me 2 cents.
 
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Compatible, and a fairly substantial rig? Yes.
Recommended? No. Not at all. You are easily being gouged for thousands of dollars here.

I wont tell you to build your own (directly anyway). But you have to remember: everyone who has ever built a PC had a first system. I was a console gamer before I built my system. Its not as hard as you may think. And not worth several thousand on top of parts.
 
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That build is ridiculously priced, plus there's many points where it's got very poor component selection. You'd actually see worse performance (as a gaming rig) that something that costs less than half the price - think i5-6600K + 1080.

*The 5820K is not really suited for gaming. The additional cores are nice & all, but at the (significant) expense of clock speed - which can matter substantially in games.

*That's a completed overkill motherboard, and amount of RAM (again, for gaming)

*I'd hate to think how much these places attribute as a cost for Overclocking - something these 'boutique' builders rarely get right/stable anyway.

A quick crunch of the numbers, and you/I/anyone (paying full retail/consumer prices) could build that rig for somewhere in the $3k range. Would I recommend it, even at $3k? Absolutely not.

You're essentially paying a $2,000+ premium for overclocking (again, no guarantees it'll be stable) and for warranty/support (note, not return shipping though). Is that warranty/support worth $1,500+? I highly, highly doubt it. Lots of negatives out there about Ironside.

There's really no valid argument to spending more than ~$1,500 to $2,000 on a gaming rig itself. Peripherals etc will be on top - but as an example: $2,300 including monitor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.49 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($150.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.68 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($659.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2325.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-14 11:16 EDT-0400

I'd look around for a local store who would be willing to build it for you if you won't / can't yourself - but it's really not that difficult.
 
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My huge problem with build it yourself is I NEVER get that parts, or it's wrong, multiple friends I know ordered from this Ironside and got it, Could I get a local business order them. Yes. But it's ridiculous, Before they said I had to pay 4k just for a PC with i7-4790k never bought it but still. Plus i wouldn't trust them with it, or myself honestly. I know i would fuck something up. Barty, should i overclock processor you suggested?, or would a i7 6700k work, And i want some board that will support sli, because alot of stuff im planning for the future, instead of spending 3k extra for parts later, and may not get them, Just buy a pre-build.
 
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You never get the parts? Assuming you mean a lost shipment, or unethical seller etc? That's always a (slim) possibility, but the sties I linked are all reputable & authorized sellers of components. You wouldn't have any issues.

As for "wrong" - that's why we're here. We could assist in part selection & compatibility.

Again, building a rig is NOWHERE near as difficult as people think/assume. Provided you take your time & read your manuals (and stop and ask for help if you have issues rather than forcing something), it's not difficult at all. Every person who's ever built a rig started off in the same position you are - never having built one before.

My personal opinion on Overclocking.... If you're not confident enough to build a computer yourself, you should not attempt to overclock without a significant period of time invested in reading up or/understanding all that's involved.
Assuming you did all that, would I recommend you OC from the outset? That's your call. I wouldn't say so. I'd keep the OC potential in your 'back pocket' for later. Down the line, you may need an extra boost, so do it then.

Should you get an i7-6700K? For gaming, not really necessary. If the decision was between the 6700K and 5820K in the original build, I'd back the 6700K for a gaming rig, due to it's higher clock speed.

Most (all?) Z170 chipset boards support SLI

Your argument of getting all components now rarely, if ever, actually makes financial sense. If you only need a single GPU today, get a single GPU. Down the road, if you need any extra GPU boost, then SLI. First & foremost, the cost will be down on that second GPU - you won't be paying 2x launch pricing. You'll pay 1x launch pricing & maybe 50-75% of the launch pricing for the second card (depending how long it takes to need the second card).
 
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Building your own computer is easy. Building it takes 2-3 hours, and installing windows takes about 30mins to 45mins, and after that downloading and installing drivers takes another 30-45 mins. After all that, have it download windows updates at night, it may take a 2-4 passes to get them all.

Building a PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4 (only takes him like 45 mins, but he's experienced, and he does cover everything you need to know)
Installing Windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAdwedmj1M

Protip for installing drivers safely, install them one at a time and restart the computer after each install to avoid breaking the OS, which can happen if you try to install them all at once.

 
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If you're absolutely dead-set against building your own, then I do suggest you at least ask around town before you buy anything online and find out if there are any local shops that would build one for you, and if so, how much they'd charge. You may find a better deal than the Ironside, and if you ask, they should let you talk with whoever's assembling the machine for you and inspect it before you buy it.

(For the record, though, I have to agree with the other posters that it's not that difficult to build one.)
 
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