PC Shuts Down / Boot Loop/ Corrupt Bios

anisur

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Hi there,

Im having hard time with automatic shut downs on my 5 year old pc which was built by myself as per spec:

GA-Z77-D3H Socket 1155
i5 3570K (Stock)
Hyper 212X Cooler (replaced stock)
Ballistix Tactical 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT (replaced Corsair vengance)
AMD 6870 1 GB MSI
Antec 620w high current gamer PSU
Samsung Evo 850 (replaced OCZ Agility 3)


I originally had this issue about 8 months ago when my PC just shutdown by itself, no warning just as if the power was cut.It then got caught in a boot cycle,
it would just power for a few seconds, cpu fan and PSU fan would run then stop and repeat but inbetween it would run for a little bit longer but nothing would display on monitor.
I ended up taking the pc apart and just testing the motherboard with the power supply using a screw driver to boot it. Eventually i got to a screen which informed me my bios was corrupt and it restored using the backup bios.
After this the Pc worked fine no probles at all until now, but I didnt get to the bottom of why it happened.

So now at present I started getting random shutdowns again but this time I was able to boot back up and use the computer for a while before it shuts down again.
However sometimes it gets stuck in a loop like above and I figured out (searched on here!) how to force the motherboard to reflash the bios which I assume gets corrupted from the constant shutdowns.

I have done the following without success:

I used memtest and windows memory diagnostics which pointed to an errors one one of my corsair sticks, which i have replaced with Ballistics tactical ram so am pretty confident its not this.
I have used XMP to set ram timings and manually.
I also replaced the original SSD and installed windows from fresh so guess again rules out possible software/driver/virus issues.
I have removed the GPU from motherboard and it still shuts down.
Cleared CMOS and replaced the battery.
Removed motherboard from case, tested with PSU only and 1 Stick of Ram
I have removed CPU cooler, reinstalled CPU, thermal paste (pea amount) and reinstalled the cooler.
Rechecked every connection when I reinstalled mother board.
Flashed Bios to most recent available and 1 previous.
Once on PC I have stress tested the PC with prime 95 and at stock 3.8ghz I am around 57 max temp so not a cooling issue. Strangely it seems to happen when doing less intesive tasks such as browsing. (could just be random)
Used a different cord to power PSU.


Any idea what this could be?

I have not tried another PSU as I do not have access to another one anyone close who may have one spare, but will buy a new one if this is the fix.

Also another strange thing I figured out! I am currently on the affected PC using Notepad to type this and the instead of the PC shutting down straight away it asks me if I want to close Notepad. If I click cancel it doesnt shutdown!!
It lets me get on with it for a few mins then repeats this. Strange! If I was on CS Go or a browser it would just close the programmes and shut down down.

Hope I have provided as much info, I've took a few pics with my phone of HW Monitor if this is of help I will upload.

Thanks
 

anisur

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Hi,

Thought I would post an update on this incase it can help anyone.

After my previous message I turned the Pc off and next day i couldn't get back on at all. There was endless boots and once I forced it to revert back to the back up bios it would power down during this stage.

After this I ended up buying a new PSU thinking it was most likely this, install it with only CPU installed and still boot loops!

So that ruled out the PSU, Gfx card, Ram and Hard drive leaving I guess the CPU and Mobo. Seeing as how Z77 mobos are harder to get hold off and the risk of it being the CPU I ended up getting a 6600K, new motherboard, Ram and a new copy of window due to it being tied to my current set up. Everything runs fine now!

But...

I still had an itch that I could save my old system having done so a while ago, so again I put together my old Pc with the previous parts:

GA-Z77-D3H Socket 1155
i5 3570K (Stock)
Stock Cooler
Ballistix Tactical 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT
Antec 620w high current gamer PSU
OCZ Agility 3
Antec 300 case

I attempted a force a bios recovery using this method : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhI-t5lh_38

I was able to boot only to get the windows message inaccessible boot device, I checked bios settings and noted that the setting had reverted back to IDE, I changed this to AHCI and I was able to boot into windows and everything worked fine, no shut downs! However when I went to shut down the PC it just hanged and I had to force it by using power switch. I tried to boot back up but it again reverted back to the boot loop!

One thing I remembered I did before all this happened was that I tried to change from IDE to AHCI as I had installed the SSD in IDE. I wonder if this is what caused some issues?

I read that it was better to install windows from fresh in AHCI, So I repeated above to get into the bios and flashed to F21 (not the most recent) and then forced to boot from windows USB. Formatted the SSD and installed the windows from fresh. I have been using the PC for 2 hours now and it has worked flawlessly so far! I will stress test it more tomorrow and see if all is still good. I know im not out of the woods yet but Im a bit disgruntled ive upgraded a bit prematurely if this Pc holds out! I plan to give it away to a family member if it can be stable.

Anyone have any thoughts on this, could it be something like the SSD AHCI combination causing it shutdown and corrupt the bios? Also what stress test is best to use for all round to ensure system is stable.

Thanks.






 

Will_95

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I know its abit late but my system is doing the same thing after a windows update. Idk if i fried my board but i just built my first pc. I have a msi z77a gd65 board that i could send out for you to try, but it has 3 bent pins that im not going to try to fix cause im a puss. My current system is a potato. Amd athlon ii x2 215 and a gts 250 so i wouldnt mind if you tested using my board. Any other info you need just pm me.
 
Jan 27, 2019
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I have the same problem. Bios gets corrupted with each shutdown but it doesnt get corrupted with a reboot.
Achi changes to IDe.
Havent tried to reinstall win10 yet.
 
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did you find what the problem was after all?