Lost in the quagmire.

mudcatslim 1970

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I am so DONE. Its now after midnight and my eyes nice and red.

My brain is mush and I am starting to wonder if I will ever come up with an answer.

Seemed simple at first, but after days of trolling any blogs or comments sections on various motherboards, I have been shown that no, its not simple to choose one over the other.

I am new so I hold no allegiance to any manufacturer. I simply want a nice board with as few hiccups as possible.

But to the contrary, it looks like there is a running theme of every modern board made by big name manufacturers having something wrong with it. Often times many somethings wrong if you go by the comments of those who bought one.

Its 2016, and I wonder why that's so. I really do.

From bad bios setups, to bad firmware, to parts dying on the board. RMA is now a term I am very familiar with.

I have trolled Toms Hardware, and New Egg and various other places searching for the Holy Grail of boards and have came away disappointed over and over again.

I realize that allot of it is being brought on by builders that never checked rather a certain component was certified to work with the board in the first place. Or they did not update any of the drivers etc.

Sounds like me I suppose.

But that said I am still wanting to build a better system than I currently am working on.

I don't mind spending the coin if the board is worth it, but I do not want to buy something known to the greater community of experienced builders as a dog right from the start.

Currently looking at the better IE pricier items from Gigabyte, MSI, and Asus.

Ahhhhggg, I want to puke blood from my eyeballs after the negatives I have found.

Can somebody point a brother in a direction? I simply want to start with a good, or perhaps even GREAT product and go from there.

I really hate to sound so negative, but I am ready to just stop while I am ahead.
 
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Here is what I threw together based on your post, can be tweaked as its still under budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($137.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.84 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @...
What is your budget and potential processor?

The main reason you run into so many negative reviews is pretty simple. It is much more likely for people to complain when they get a non-functioning product than for someone to write a review of a working product. Many purchases get installed, work properly, and are never heard from again. Only those with issues speak up (obviously there are positive reviews, but it is a bit skewed).

You are far less likely to run into issues than you think you are, and even if you do warranty is there for you.
Generally, ASUS and Gigabyte make the best motherboards, ASRock is on the less expensive end, but still quality. I personally avoid recommending MSI motherboards due to historically poor QC, their GPUs are quality though.
 

mudcatslim 1970

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Yeah, I should have written down the particulars. When I originally posted it was a light night rant LOL. As far as budget is concerned, around 2000 American give or take. This is just for the board, processor, ram, psu, coolers, storage and video card. I've learned that SSD storage does cost.

(Not really relevant, but I do so love the Phanteks Ethoo Luxe and Evolve cases. :love: and just those crush any kind of budget.:ange:)

My setup will mainly be a gaming computer, with perhaps some editing of photos or video? I guess you could say a well rounded rig with a heavy slant toward being able to play the latest and greatest games.

I think I would like to use an Intel Core i7-6700K for the processor. On that note there seems to be a rather large camp that says no need for the i7. Games do not need hyper threading. But when I go to Eve Onlines newest system configuration page they recommend an i7 processor.

I suppose its the amount of information that your rig has to process at anyone time. It is a huge game and what I am running now has a tendency to jerk or lock up for a second or two. The black screen of death when changing from one area of the game to another.

The Witcher 3 recommends a Core i7-3770 as well, and though I don't think that's a Skylake processor its still an i7. I suppose both could run well with the Skylake

I don't know if I will ever really need the over clocking capability of the K series, but the newer boards I am looking at all carry Z170 series chip sets, and it might be nice to experiment with later.

I think I would like to stay between 200 and 300 dollars American give or take for the board.

Tom's Hardware gives the nod to the Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming G1....WOW that's and expensive board for me. But I could just wait and save a bit longer if it was truly justified.

Asus has the Z170 Delux for a bit less, but I have read where they had issues with their secondary DIMMs. I also like the looks of the Asus ROG Maximus 8 formula and it comes closer to the ceiling. I love the look of the MSI X Power Titanium, and the Krait boards. But as noted above there are those that thumbs down MSI's QC.

At this level of spending I really want to find a board with as few gremlins out the gate as possible. I would like it to be fairly noobie friendly, but at this level of building I do not really expect it. So much packed into one board is confusing for me.

Reading the online manuals tells me I have a looong way to go in understanding the boards.

I want to get my hands on the new G force 1080 card. Maybe the 1070, but with the amount of money that it would take so far, then I may as well spend for the pricier item.

I think by now its easy to get the picture of what I am hoping for. It will take a bit of time to put something this pricey together. By that time the manufacturers would probably have all rolled out something even better. I think I see now that technology really does seem to run that quickly and that "future proofing" your rig really is not a reality. I am continually amazed at what I am uncovering. Technology is a complicated beast.





 
Here is what I threw together based on your post, can be tweaked as its still under budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($137.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.84 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1769.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-18 13:59 EDT-0400


I do have to say this might be my last reply for a while, as Im heading out of town for a few days.
 
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mudcatslim 1970

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