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Alright, I am expecting to have around $2k at the end of August + whatever I can sell my MSI GT70 0nd for. I have never really had a PC before - my family had only bought laptops for some reason... So I want to get a brand new PC with the best specs for the money I have, and hopefully the GTX 1060 or whichever is the latest nvindia video card there is. My friend suggested that I buy Alienware aurora the one that's $2000 (or 1979.99, to be precise), however For some reason I think that Alienware is overpriced. I am very inexperienced when it comes to buying a PC, but I know that y'all are a very helpful community. So could you please suggest some options which I could use to have my own machine, best for the money I have.
P.S. I have never built a PC before and I have no idea how hard or easy it is. I just don't want to zap one of the expensive parts because of my lack of experience.
 
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You are very correct in that alienware is overpriced. Overall it's very simple to build a custom PC, and I would highly recommend that route for you if you really want a good value. Check out some articles or videos on the subject (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601.html) and if you think it's for you (it is very easy) let us know and we'll help you select the parts come August. As far as zapping the parts, if you take a few basic precautions it is very safe. I'm actually rather haphazard when I do it and I've never had any issues, but I can't recommend that in good conscience.
 
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Alright, then building my own is the way to go for me. I know the basics such as certain components go together with only certain motherboards, etc. also I will need a full PC pack - including monitor keyboard and mouse. Thanks for answering, I guess it's good that I haven't purchased that Alienware.
Also what are your thoughts on pcpartpicker.com and newegg.com? Are those websites good for such sort of thing?
 
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Alright, then building my own is the way to go for me. I know the basics such as certain components go together with only certain motherboards, etc. also I will need a full PC pack - including monitor keyboard and mouse. Thanks for answering, I guess it's good that I haven't purchased that Alienware.
Also what are your thoughts on pcpartpicker.com and newegg.com? Are those websites good for such sort of thing?
 
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Let's say $2,500 is max... For now... But I need everything, including monitor keyboard mouse, etc...
 
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Alright, there's a lot of different directions to take this one in. If we really wanted to cut corners we could easily do an overclocked i7-6700k and GTX 1080 build within this price point. But I'm going to go for something a little more "well rounded".

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($143.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($449.95 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 165Hz Monitor ($749.00 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($140.55 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Zowie ZA11 Wired Optical Mouse ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2415.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 15:17 EDT-0400

This is an overclocking build, if you don't want to overclock, no worries we can change it to a locked processor and save some money.

The general idea here is that we are building around a 1440p 165Hz IPS Gsync monitor. A truly beautiful display. To that end we have a GTX 1070 powering it, we could have gone 1080 by tweaking other components (and we still can), but there's good value in the 1070. We have a massive 500gb SSD, 16gb of memory, rock solid PSU. To top it all off we have a cool Red/Black theme throughout the entire build, even down to the K70 mechanical keyboard backlighting and the logo on the Zowie mouse (which is a great mouse).
 
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Looks incredible... Also I am not sure if i understand it right, but i think i will need a network adapter, since i am playing through wi-fi 100% of the time. And then i also play WoW and other games, that require a lot of micro-control, however, according to this mouse's pic, it doesn't have too many buttons... I might be wrong, but if not, is there an alternative, around the same price?
Also I am not exactly sure what overclocking is and what it's used for, and if it's really necessary... Would you mind explaining shortly what it does? :)
 
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You can add in a wifi card, something like this would work fine: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bQ8Zxr/asus-wireless-network-card-pceac56

Yeah, if you're mostly playing WoW we definitely don't need a better GPU than a 1070, that is more than enough as it's not a very intensive game on video cards.

For the mouse if you want a lot of buttons the Zowie probably wouldn't be for you, it only has the 2 extra on the side, it's more of an FPS mouse I suppose. For lots of buttons check out the Corsair Scimitar, Roccat Nyth, Razer Naga, Or logitech G600. I don't know enough about the individual sensors of them to say if any should be avoided, but I'll do some research.

Overclocking is to run your processor at a higher speed than it is intended for. It boosts your performance. It's honestly pretty easy to do these days and just about anyone can get a mild overclock by just using the boards automatic overclocking features. It's definitely not necessary, I don't really do it anymore, I'm cheap and don't like to spend the extra money on the Z boards, K processors, and better coolers necessary.

 
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Yeah, the reason i play WoW is pretty much because i can't run the new games... Would this build be able to play the newer games like AC Syndicate, Witcher 3 and other top games on max settings?
And also is there a lot of difference between 1070 and 1080?

 
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I will talk it over with few ppl, but that's prob. what i am going to go for, thank you so much, you helped a lot... Damn you did all the job for me, so to thank you is the least i can do :)
 
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No worries, that's what we're here for. If you or your friends decide you want something different like a GTX 1080 or an i7 let me know and I can tweak the build to accomodate it.
 
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Do you plan on overclocking? if not I wouldn't get the Kraken x61. Also do you have tons of games you plan on playing? if not I would just get the Samsung 850 250GB instead of the 500 GB. Also go to Kinguin.com for your windows OEM operating system for $30 just a thought.
I personally like Full towers but that is preference and plans for future upgrades. I would swap out that monitor for a cheaper one like an atron 24"
go to amazon and search Atron-Vision-AVF240 $201.00 the monitor that's listed above is higher end and imo if your tower isn't high end why have a monitor that is? plus this is the monitor I use(the atron) and it works great! I would either save the money or use it for a better cpu/mobo
 
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Alright so let's say I don't want to do the overclocking build (Since I don't entirely understand it and prob. won't use it, and, moreover, you, a much more advanced computer person, said that you hardly ever use it any more)... Is there something we can switch out to get to a good 1080? Also is the $800 rly that necessary? I feel like it's a little too much))), now if it really makes a difference versus other monitors when it comes to the quality, then it's k, however i feel that it's the same story as alienware (overpriced)
P.S. Also not sure if i need it, but is there supposed to be a sound card as well?
 
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That is a good observation. I might want to switch a few things around...
 
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Nah, we don't need to spend that much.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($143.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($492.25 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($140.55 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Zowie ZA11 Wired Optical Mouse ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2291.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-30 09:36 EDT-0400

Here's a locked i7 and GTX 1080 build. I went with the ASUS ROG Strix card instead of the MSI Gaming X this time since it was almost $100 cheaper. The MSI Gaming cards are great, but not THAT great. I also swapped the display down to a different 1440p 144Hz. This time it is a TN panel, not IPS, but it's a lot cheaper since you were concerned about the price. The CPU cooler is really just for looks, since this is a themed build.

Here's the deal on monitors: You have to get one that pairs with your GPU. If you go cheaper on the monitor and get a 1080p 144Hz or 1440p 60Hz then there's no need to get a GPU better than a 1060 or 1070. With a GTX 1080 you need a monitor that makes all that horsepower worth buying.
 
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So would the monitor from other build have a much higher quality than this one? also would it work with this gtx 1080 build? And also what about a sound card? Do i need one? Also is the difference between 4.0GHz and 3.4GHz CPUs even noticeable? if so can we do one of those?
 
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1) In some ways yes. An IPS display tends to have richer colors, blacker blacks and is better to view from an angle. You know how most monitors if you aren't directly in front of it the picture becomes dim? That wouldn't be a problem.
2) Yes, it definitely will work with this GTX 1080 build.
3) You don't need a sound card. Onboard audio is more than sufficient for standard computer speakers and headsets. I would only recommend a sound card if you are using high-end expensive sound equipment.
4) A little bit, but not a whole lot. Clock speed starts really making a difference when you get into the 4.5Ghz range. The biggest benefit of this i7 is that it is 4 cores 8 threads and better for multitasking applications that are coded to take advantage of that, which hopefully games will start doing soon (finally). It's also great for streaming.
5) Yes, if you want to do a 4.0Ghz CPU I would do the i7 6700k and go back to the Z170 board in the previous build I recommended. That way if you do decide you want to try out overclocking you have the ability (if you're going to pay for the 6700k, might as well use it to the fullest).

 
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This man knows his shit. +rep

 
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Ok, so what would the final build look like with 4.0 ghz, different m-board and, if possible a 4k monitor, if it works with this build, or just the best IPS monitor i can use with this?
 
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