How future proof is the AMD FX 8350 and/or how long will it last?

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I am in urgent need of a change of case, but that means I won't be able to bring my original mobo over. So I looked around to determine whether I should wait for Zen to see if that's good, but I came to the conclusion this 8350 seems like a miracle when it comes to bang for buck, or at least until Zen if that blows it outa the park. I say this because when it comes to percentage performance, it seems like anything around this £130 price area, doesn't offer as much value for price etc.

It's 2016 and this cpu was released back in 2014. I feel a bit worried, but I'm so excited because I never really did anything custom with this PC and I'd love to pretty much make my own PC, with the new case, cpu, motherboard and operating system I have on the list.
 
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It depends on what you are doing with your PC.
For general tasks (web, productivity, media consumption) this CPU is OK.
For gaming purposes, it's already deprecated. At least when we are talking about AAA titles and high FPS.
And Zen ... I'm not sure how good it will be ...
AMD has a long history of unfulfilled promises in both CPU and GPU. Even the recently released RX 480 is just OK. It didn't bring any revolution and basically catching up with nvidia in terms of performance. But inferior in power efficiency.
This is flame bate but I'll take it. The CPU is nearly 4 years old, and its got another year left in it, but AMD Zen comes out in volume early 2017. AMD news recently mentioned that the AMD Zen CPU is already being sampled with 'partners' and that low rate production will being in late 2016 with volume production in the first 3 months of 2017. This CPU will be an 8 Core/16 Thread unit.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3099129/software-games/gaming-desktops-with-amd-zen-chips-will-be-hard-to-come-by-this-year.html
 
It depends on what you are doing with your PC.
For general tasks (web, productivity, media consumption) this CPU is OK.
For gaming purposes, it's already deprecated. At least when we are talking about AAA titles and high FPS.
And Zen ... I'm not sure how good it will be ...
AMD has a long history of unfulfilled promises in both CPU and GPU. Even the recently released RX 480 is just OK. It didn't bring any revolution and basically catching up with nvidia in terms of performance. But inferior in power efficiency.
 
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I have a slight idea of what flame bate is, but I didn't mean for it. I just got excited I guess..
 

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Alrighty. Thanks for the information. I was planning on gaming. In the future I'd be hoping to get a gtx 1070.
 

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Woah, thanks buddy :D I am in the UK, using GBP (great british pounds). I'd like to build the PC myself, unless it's cheaper otherwise. I was hoping to go with AMD because hey gotta have competition, but anyway.

I'd like to keep the CPU below £150, 150 maximum. I currently have a Intel Core i5 3350P @ 3.10GHz. I need a motherboard that can support my Ddr3 ram that is I believe 2x4gb. I have a 2TB Seagate, 7200rpm hard drive. My current PC case is bad so the GPU overheats, but at the same time I don't have much space for my PC so I need at max a micro atx, mini itx would be great.

Windows 10 pro is £65 - so I got £280 to spare for the case, CPU and motherboard.


Edit: This tough pricing is also why I refrain from cooling, as I also DON'T WANT TO OVERCLOCK UNLESS VERY NECESSARY! Hoping to get a easy to maintain case. (dust, heat etc)
 

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As previously mentioned, your choice of processors are going to be determined by your budget and what you are using the PC for. The fx8350 will perform ok in most games but there are better options for gaming, for example for an extra £25-£30 you can get an i5 (4th or 6th gen).

If you tell us your budget, what you want to use PC for and a list of all your current components, do you need OS, mouse, keyboard, case, monitor etc? Then we can give you good recommendations to help with your upgrade.
 


To feed the GTX 1070, you need a CPU like i7, preferably K (to go beyond 4GHz).
The funny thing that there is very small difference between i7-2600K and i7-6700K on the same clock.
The only "problem" going with older gen is slower memory. Some games like GTA V do benefit from faster RAM. But you can pick a 2000+ DDR3 and it will be fine.
Everything depends on the budget you can comfortably spend on the upgrade.
 

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Just posted a reply to someone else that includes the components I need to be able to carry over if you'd mind looking at that :D

I already have everything else (keyboard and mouse) like my monitor, which is to game with in 1080p. I'd like to upgrade to 1440p in the further future.
 

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Yeah I definitely will upgrade my Ram further down the future, which'll be around the time I hope to upgrade to 1440p and a gtx 1070. This was why I was hoping the 8350 would be a good purchase, as it has 4ghz.
 

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Oh yeah, but I'm looking at intel ones now if not other AMD options.
 

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What PSU do you have at present?

By the way the CPU you have is still OK for gaming, I am using a Phenom II x 4 955 BE CPU at the moment and that is running games fine for me.

If you are intent on upgrading though here is what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI H81I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£57.02 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case (£50.37 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £275.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-24 11:09 BST+0100

 

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I am upgrading because I don't think I can carry my mobo and cpu over, as it's from a dell xps 8500. I have a corsair CX600 modular.

Yeah I'm still thinking what I should do... To look for an upgrade or not.

And I keep seeing Michael Rosen in your picture. It's haunting.

Edit: Wait no I'd like to upgrade, as I'd like the experience of making my own PC and I hope to get a better GPU in the future.
 

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it's from a dell xps 8500, it's basically a default one from dell, not like an asus, msi, gigabyte mobo etc. this one has dodgy mounting holes that might not be able to carry onto other cases because that's how dell made it
 
Yeah, I know ...
It is just that i did the "use normal MB in OEM case" and "use MB from OEM in normal case".
Not all of them will work, but you can simply check it by measuring the size of the mobo and the mounting points.
Your MB/CPU combo is fine. You can definitely use it for gaming meanwhile.