AMD RX 460 equivalent nvidia

Akash_11 · Jul 24, 2016

any guess what will be answer of AMD RX 460 from NVIDIA, can i expect equivalent card from NVIDIA below $150.

Thanks

Mr Kagouris · Jul 24, 2016

Honestly I'm not sure if any Pascal GPU will be in that price range. Maybe the GTX 1050 (whenever that comes out) will be around that price.

InvalidError · Jul 24, 2016

I get the feeling that the GTX1050 will get priced at $200 and might be the lowest end for Pascal if Nvidia's pattern of knocking prices up by $50 continues. The lowest-end Maxwell was the 750 which launched at $150 MSRP.

Akash_11 · Jul 24, 2016

InvalidError :

hmm

. then no competition for AMD RX 460

Math Geek · Jul 24, 2016

no competition from anything new but you still have the maxwell 950/60 cards and of course the good old 970. if they drop in price far enough, thye may be competition but we won't know for sure until we have 460 cards to review so we can know what they can do.

Mr Kagouris · Jul 24, 2016

I doubt any card will drop far enough to both compete in performance and price with the Rx 460.

Math Geek · Jul 24, 2016

no idea. my crystal ball is still at the cleaners but throwing it out there as a possibility. not gonna guess myself since we don't have any actual cards to review

renz496 · Jul 26, 2016

Akash_11 :

RX 460 will be sub 75w card. so far nvidia haven't reveal much about their chip covering this segment yet. i think they will let AMD launching RX460 first before properly counter them.

InvalidError · Jul 26, 2016

renz496 :

If Nvidia puts out a GPU to go after the RX460's market, that would have to be a GT(X)1040 or possibly a GT1030. It does not look like Nvidia is in any sort of hurry to extend its Pascal lineup that low.

My bet is that Nvidia will leave the low-end to AMD and not go any lower than the $200 GTX1050 with Pascal.

Akash_11 · Jul 26, 2016

renz496 :

probably GTX 756 ti but price range is still an issue, if NVIDIA try to release such card at competitive price then it will crush 750 ti card.

Akash_11 · Jul 26, 2016

InvalidError :

i think RX 460 or GTX 750 ti like cards cover very good market share outside USA, a USA $150 card cost in my country about $200 - $250, if $200 GTX1050 with Pascal will be release it will cost $300 - $400 here which is difficult to adjust.

looks like coming year is not good for NVIDIA, still NVIDIA is on 16nm chip instead 14nm.

renz496 · Jul 26, 2016

Akash_11 :

not a problem. 750Ti was launch in feb 2014. the card is more than two years old by now. in fact 750Ti already indirectly being replace by GTX950 75w edition.

InvalidError · Jul 26, 2016

Akash_11 :

16nm vs 14nm is completely pointless. Physically, most details on "14nm" are multiples of 16nm anyway due to both processes using the same UV sources and being bound to the same wavelength fractions in their phase shift masks. 14nm is mainly a byproduct of screwy math, it has no real benefit over 16nm.

The problem with GPUs much below $200 is that an increasingly large chunk of that market is within IGPs' reach and this will only get worse when AMD launches APUs with 1-2GB of HBM on-package. At that point, it may become cheaper to upgrade the APU on an existing AMD motherboard than buying a $150 GPU with equivalent graphics performance since you only need to buy the chip instead of a whole board..

renz496 · Jul 26, 2016

InvalidError :

doubt that nvidia will leave AMD for long unanswered. the way how they "rush" 1060 launch shows that did care on the low end to certain extend. just look how successful 750Ti are on the low end. it force AMD to drop their much faster 270X at the same price as 750Ti to compete. the core strength of 750TI is it's power efficiency. in PCPer test even OEM PC with 250w PSU capable of handling 750Ti just fine. if RX460 going to be much faster than 950 75w edition (which i think it will) nvidia will release their GP107 to compete with RX460 soon.

renz496 · Jul 26, 2016

Akash_11 :

InvalidError :

i think RX 460 or GTX 750 ti like cards cover very good market share outside USA, a USA $150 card cost in my country about $200 - $250, if $200 GTX1050 with Pascal will be release it will cost $300 - $400 here which is difficult to adjust.

looks like coming year is not good for NVIDIA, still NVIDIA is on 16nm chip instead 14nm.

lol how did you come into that conclusion?

renz496 · Jul 26, 2016

InvalidError :

that might be the case with the lowest end but sub 75w gpu also getting faster. by the time IGP get as fast as 750TI there already faster GPU than 750TI while consuming around the same power. also APU with HBM probably won't be here anytime soon. and to make APU with HBM at cheaper price we probably have to wait even longer. and it seems we might not going to stay long on HBM like we did with GDDR5.

Akash_11 · Jul 26, 2016

renz496 :

Akash_11 :

lol how did you come into that conclusion?

i just guess

16nm vs 14nm, NVIDIA should launch PASCAL with 14nm, and would ready for 10nm by 2017.

Akash_11 · Jul 26, 2016

InvalidError :

Akash_11 :

16nm vs 14nm is completely pointless. Physically, most details on "14nm" are multiples of 16nm anyway due to both processes using the same UV sources and being bound to the same wavelength fractions in their phase shift masks. 14nm is mainly a byproduct of screwy math, it has no real benefit over 16nm.

The problem with GPUs much below $200 is that an increasingly large chunk of that market is within IGPs' reach and this will only get worse when AMD launches APUs with 1-2GB of HBM on-package. At that point, it may become cheaper to upgrade the APU on an existing AMD motherboard than buying a $150 GPU with equivalent graphics performance since you only need to buy the chip instead of a whole board..

i'm not expert in this, i thought small nm mean impact on power consumption and cost. even tho performance is same 14nm vs 16nm, still 14nm is more economical.

Mr Kagouris · Jul 26, 2016

Considering the Zen APUs will most likely feature a Polaris-based chip and DDR4 support they will probably crush the sub-200$ category as they'd be a much more attractive choice than paying equivalent (or slightly lower) price for an Intel CPU and then another 100-150$ for the GPU.

I'm also really excited about the Zen APUs because they will finally make the small form factor "PC console" concept much more viable and financially sensible (whereas current APUs just don't cut it, and going for a proper system puts you way above the console price range).

InvalidError · Jul 26, 2016

Akash_11 :

14nm vs 16nm is pure marketing bullshit that has very little to do with physical dimensions. The two are physically the same size and many features are even still the same dimensions as they were on 20-22nm, which is why 14nm chips are only about 40% smaller than a similar complexity chip on 22nm despite the bogus process size indicating that the chip should be 60% smaller.

Structures like MOS gate length and width have reached their practical limits for known materials and manufacturing process a while ago and aren't shrinking anymore.

renz496 · Jul 26, 2016

Akash_11 :

as shown by A9 comparison between samsung and TSMC size wise samsung 14nm probably have slight advantage in term of transistor density. but when it comes to it TSMC has been making gpu for AMD and nvidia for a long time. and the company have the expertise of making process that needed by GPU. why AMD only launching 232mm2 polaris? why AMD did not launch something that on par with nvidia 1080/1070 yet? it could be the 14nm that GF use is not that ready for big die yet. also there is rumor in the past that suggesting AMD will use TSMC 16nm process for their bigger GPU (Vega?)

Mr Kagouris · Jul 26, 2016

AMD most likely didn't launch the Rx 490 to tackle the low-end market first because they weren't sure they could compete with the GTX 1080 (since they had as much indication about how it performs as we did before launch). There's also a rumour that Apple bought AMD's entire supply of Rx 490 chips (which were few to begin with to make wafer space for Rx 480 chips), which I wouldn't put past them since Apple have a track record of favouring AMD chips in their products and it's been a while since they launched a new iMac and/or Mac Pro, so combining the higher power efficiency of Vega, small form factor and suitability for higher resolutions from HBM2, and advancements in display resolution technologies Apple may be looking at launching an 8K iMac and thought that the Vega GPUs were perfect.

renz496 · Jul 27, 2016

hard to say. people can speculate all they want. but AMD should be able to roughly predict where 1080 performance will land if they look at 780Ti and 980. nvidia for sure was aware about this so they make 1080 significantly more faster than titan x and 980ti instead of "slightly faster" and make 1070 about on par with the two to try staying ahead. as for Vega i think AMD are waiting for HBM2. just like how they hold Fury X release until June 2015

Mr Kagouris · Jul 27, 2016

Vega's coming out late October to early November so I think they more likely ran out of wafer space manufacturing the smaller Rx 480 and Rx 460 dies and don't want to bring the Rx 490 to market this early because they'd face massive shortages like Nvidia.

mohit9206 · Jul 27, 2016

RX460 Nvidia equivalent already exists and its called Nvidia GTX950. RX460 will be slower than 950 but slightly cheaper too.
GTX950 current price india- $200
RX460 2gb predicted price- $160
RX460 4gb predicted price- $190
So make your decision accordingly.

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