Titan X Pascal impressive?

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axlrose

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I know, all the hype is often hype, but 12gb and ddr5x? Thought it would cost more and be better? Should I still be excited? Is it that much better than the 1080?
 
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photonboy

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1) It's $1200USD MSRP (probably will be price gouged at first).

2) 40% more processing cores, but likely won't hit quite the same frequency. With other bottlenecks real advantage might be closer to 20% on average, though this will vary a lot.

3) *It's not primarily a gaming card. It offers advantages due to Double Precision (which gamers don't need) for non-gaming uses.

4) I don't normally recommend SLI, but for the money a 2xGTX1080 would make a lot more sense. Or put the money towards a GSYNC monitor or something else.
 
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The new Titan and the last Titan X both had poor FP64 performance and exactly the same as the other gaming cards. The is because Nvidia has cut out the FP64 out of the chip. Only the OG Titan and Titan Black have the FP64 unlocked. IF you want high double precision you need a Tesla or Quadro card.

Even the FP16 has been crushed in the new Titan because the last one sold so well for computing. SO now you buying a overpriced gaming card with no "professional" benefits.
 
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no cards this go around will have hbm2. They would not put gddr5x in the titan and hbm2 in the 1080ti. That would be a poor decision on nvidia's part. I do think however the 1080ti this go around will be the better choice. I too wanted to go ALL OUT and get a titan but for $1200 and its lack luster (at least on paper) numbers i'm already turned away from it. Would rather do 2 1080ti's
 
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Probably be $799'ish though like the 780ti was and the 980ti at launch. The 1080's will drop in price to the 500-600's. Thats IF we even see a 1080ti. I don't think there is any room between the 1080 and the titanX for a 1080ti performance wise. It would have to have 8gb of vram like the 1080 making it no better in that department. It cant have 12 because then it would be to close to titanX level.
 
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renz496

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1) it seems you can only buy the card directly from nvidia (no AIB this time like previous titan). will nvidia themselves going to sell the card above MSRP because of demand?

2) i'm thinking the performance improvement will be in 20% range. overclocking probably will be hampered by the reference cooler despite nvidia claim about designing the card for maximum OC potential

3) this one will be the same as maxwell titan x when it comes to DP. but they have massive performance for INT8 used in deep learning stuff. though if you want "true" deep learning card you still going to need true Tesla card. anandtech confirm with nvidia that this new titan X will have "crippled" support for FP16 which also important in other deep learning task.

4) +1
 
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renz496

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lol people also say the same when they see maxwell titan x have very weak DP performance. nvidia specifically create this card for people that want to use INT8. this time AIB don't even sell this. probably nvidia did not intend to sell many of them to begin with. as for quadro i don't know if you can get "unlock" DP performance with them. it seems in the past nvidia intend to offer DP performance only through tesla card. they were offering quadro + tesla (for compute) solution so they can sell quadro and tesla card at the same time.
 
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This titanX now that more results have been released is supposed to be 50-60% faster than that's gems titanX and yes will have crippled fp performance. There were no partner Titans in the past were there? It was all reference cards with no custom coolers unless you did liquid.
 
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1) honestly i'm not even sure if Geforce will ever get HBM2 treatment. so far games did not really being bottlenecked too much by bandwidth.

2) GP100 most likely will never see a light as a gaming card. GP102 has been speculated since early or late last year. at first i thought GP102 comes out purely from people speculation stemming from the existence of GK210 but that's not the case. people that digging info into nvidia driver and CUDA stuff have found the reference for GP102.

3) it will depend a lot on AMD future action as well.
 
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in the past nvidia did not allow for custom titan but they still allow for partners to sell them. this time they don't even get their hands on it.
 
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Unless they change up their marketing scheme because they aren't marketing the Titan as "gaming" card so much and make the Ti the premier top of the line gaming GPU
 
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