Does this Power Supply have standard dimensions?

salerhino · Jul 26, 2016

Hello Tom's hardware community!
I am planning to transfer my old system in new case, but I have 1 problem.
I don't know if my old PSU will fit in new case.
I have HP dc7800 convertible minitower PC (it is actually mid-tower), picture: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Asec96mXso/U1FjdwmRDtI/AAAAAAAAAtQ/JZbKu3wW1ao/s1600/1.jpg (1st from left).
And my power supply is:https://www.amazon.com/HP-DC7900-460968-001-462434-001-DPS-365BB/dp/B00QE5OTIE
And I am planning to buy this case:https://shop.benchmark.rs/racunari_i_komponente/kucista/ms_industrial_midi_tower_knight-72295?utm_source=eponuda.com&utm_medium=eponuda&utm_campaign=direct_link
I know that both cases support ATX size of mobo, but i'm still unsure will my old PSU fit in new case?
Please reply, as soon as possible!
Thanks in advance !

Chugalug_ · Jul 26, 2016

Nope, definitely not a standard size ATX power supply, I can tell from looking at it!

Too tall for a standard sized ATX.
If you want a new power supply, get the Seasonic S12II 520w, or the EVGA 750 B2 for 58.99 with a mail in rebate if the deal is still on. Both great quality units, as your current one is probably low quality due to the fact that it comes in a prebuilt.

weberdarren97 · Jul 26, 2016

Here's the thing... Not only is it not standard ATX dimensions, it is likely low quality.

To expand on the above statement, the EVGA SuperNOVA B2/G2/P2/T2 series are good as is the Seasonic S12II series and the Corsair RM/RMi/RMx series.

Chugalug_ · Jul 26, 2016

weberdarren97 :

The P2 and T2 are a little out of budget range! xD
The Corsair RMi and RMx are also overpriced, many better PSUs for the same price such as the XFX TS/XTR series.
The standard RM series also use CapXon secondary capacitors, which are very low quality, so steer cleer of those.
Apart from that your recommendations are good!

Use Jonny Guru for power supply reviews etc.
Great product overviews, and they cut the crap and get straight to the main benefits/problems in their summaries.
Good for learning about the different components too.

salerhino · Jul 27, 2016

Chugalug_ :

I really don't have money at the moment for new PSU, so I would like to keep this instead even with it's low quality it serves me good for now, thanks on recommendations tho.
But, is it still possible to put it in new case using some modifications or something like that?

Chugalug_ · Jul 27, 2016

salerhino :

Sadly no.
It is not a standard sized power supply, meaning it simply doesn't do downsizing. There are modifications you can make to SFX power supplies in order to make them fit in ATX cases, but the same does not apply to larger power supplies.
I recommend getting the EVGA 500B. It is going for an absolute bargain at the moment, you won't want to pass it up.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zNK7YJ/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr
Going for only $29.99 with a mail in rebate from NCIX at the moment.
If you're going to change cases, you'll need an ATX power supply 100%, no compromises.
Now's a better time than any.
It should serve you well for a graphics card up to the 980/1070 and maybe 1080, anything that draws a higher wattage like the 980ti I wouldn't recommend.

Dark Lord of Tech · Jul 27, 2016

http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b

Chugalug_ · Jul 27, 2016

Yeah, I know about HEC being a pretty shite OEM, but given OPs budget constraints, it seems like the only suitable option given the price at the moment, which is good value. Even the site itself recommends it cheap for budget builds!

Quote:
Originally Posted by twerk View Post

"I've seen the EVGA 500B for $29.99 on Newegg and the EVGA 430 for $19.99. Now, they aren't the best units in the world but for those prices they are perfect for cheap office builds. If you are building a cheap gaming rig I would recommend you spend a bit extra and go with an Antec Earthwatts or similar, I wouldn't want to use these units in a stressful environment."

salerhino · Jul 27, 2016

Chugalug_ :

Thanks on helping me man, ok, I will be able to find some PSU sooner or later, maybe my brother will give 1 spare to me, but I have this shite unstandard PC, and I have HP 0AACh mother board, it should be ATX, and I hope it has screw holes on exact places, so I am now wandering does it also have proper wiring like will new 24 pin PSU support it? It uses socket 775 so it isn't like way too old.
Please help me to finish this problem, as I will soon need new case because I already use this case without side to get better cooling as I can't install fans in it...

Chugalug_ · Jul 27, 2016

salerhino :

Sounds like an HP DDR2 system.
Are any components soldered on, and what model prebuilt are we looking at just so I can get an idea of specs?
Nvm, sounds like the dc7800 with that motherboard.
New 24 pin will work just fine, somewhat recent, so it actually uses 24 pin and not 20 pin like most old boards, thank god.
You should be all good provided that everything is removable.
You may want to get your brother to help you disassemble the PC if you're not sure what to do.
Let me know if you have any trouble.
Cheers.

Chugalug_ · Jul 27, 2016

I'm going to sleep now, 12:25am and I have work in the morning!

I'll respond tomorrow.
See ya!

salerhino · Jul 27, 2016

Chugalug_ :

You are the MVP man!
Yes it is hp dc 7800 convertible minitower (actually Mid tower), I mean it's not that laying down model.
And yes, DDR2, with upgraded processor from Core 2 Duo e8300 to Core 2 Quad q9550 reently, coming with MSI Radeon HD 6770 VGA.
I watched this video, so I am little bit woried about this:https://youtu.be/J-E2TM8ZIZk?t=325
My PC isn't DELL, but still uses some weird non standard parts...
So I guess that this wiring should be ok?

salerhino · Jul 27, 2016

Add:
http://outervision.com/b/SdmwYh

Inkiad · Jul 27, 2016

775 socket is like 8 years old.

You can get XFX TS bronze for about $35 if you need absolute budget psu. Made by seasonic.

But as said above, you case will not support standard dimension power supplies.

salerhino · Jul 27, 2016

Inkiad :

It's not about my current case anymore, we figured that out, I want to transfer my current system to new case, which is this case:http://rs.ms-start.com/proizvodi/ku%C4%87ista_midi-tower/case-ms-knight-bez-napajanja
So my question was will my PSU be able to migrate with system? I got answer NO;
So my next question is, well, will new PSU have same wiring as old one?
Like I said up:"I watched this video, so I am little bit woried about this:https://youtu.be/J-E2TM8ZIZk?t=325
My PC isn't DELL, but still uses some weird non standard parts..."
Please help if you can!

Chugalug_ · Jul 27, 2016

salerhino :

The new PSU will have the same connections as the old one. Wiring doesn't matter so much since it still uses a 24 pin.
Sata will still be usable due to the fact that it was out at this point. It will be backwards compatible, but will likely be the 3Gbps variant, meaning you won't see much benefit from an SSD.
That 80GB HDD might need an upgrade though!

Get a 1TB WD Caviar Blue drive if you have the money, the included one is likely to either die soon, or suffer from slower speeds.

Inkiad · Jul 28, 2016

PSU pins or wirings are standard. It has not changed in decades.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Inkiad :

Not necessarily true! ^.^
I still remember 20 pins being quite prevalent in systems circa 2008, although they were older architectures.

Inkiad · Jul 28, 2016

In that time psu 24 was 20+4 pin. 24pin standard was released in year 2003 at ATX 2.0. The cpu 4pin EPS was added in standard in year 2000 at ATX 1.0.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Inkiad :

I did say older systems did I not?

We're talking Pentium 4s etc.
<3

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Inkiad :

I did say older systems did I not?

We're talking Pentium 4s etc.
<3

salerhino · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

Thank you so much man!
Last questions, and I'm picking solution then ofc, what is rebate price on newegg, if I ever decide to buy from there?
Also, do they ship to Serbia? Serbia is not in EU... like 3rd world country...

Inkiad · Jul 28, 2016

Rebate means they will give you gift card with which you can buy stuff. Like if you get $20 in rebate, you will be able to buy other stuff with that $20 after you get your rebate. Getting rebate money take some time, maybe weeks.

Some seller ships internationally. You will have to check with your shipping address. Best would be to buy from local shop if you are trying to buy from abroad. As most likely you will not get any warranty service.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

salerhino :

Chugalug_ :

Thank you so much man!
Last questions, and I'm picking solution then ofc, what is rebate price on newegg, if I ever decide to buy from there?
Also, do they ship to Serbia? Serbia is not in EU... like 3rd world country...

You might need to increase your budget a tiny bit given the import costs because Serbia is not part of the EU.
Tell me some local retailers near you and your budget in local currency, and I'll hook you up.

salerhino · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

salerhino :

Chugalug_ :

Thank you so much man!
Last questions, and I'm picking solution then ofc, what is rebate price on newegg, if I ever decide to buy from there?
Also, do they ship to Serbia? Serbia is not in EU... like 3rd world country...

You might need to increase your budget a tiny bit given the import costs because Serbia is not part of the EU.
Tell me some local retailers near you and your budget in local currency, and I'll hook you up.

I'll give you website which finds you cheapest parts, something like pc part picker, but you must type 1 by 1 item on serbian lang.
I decided to keep this case and current PSU, and later buy 1 by 1 item, PSU,case,HDD..
Thanks both of you!

Does this Power Supply have standard dimensions?

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