Who's tried Windows 10 and then decided to stick to Win7? Why?

Rafael Mestdag · Jul 27, 2016

After trying Windows 10 for at least a year now, and after so many bugs and incomatibility I finally threw in the towel: I decided to stick with Windows 7 at least until they sort out all the bugs in Windows 10(Which should probably take at least a year).

What about you? Is this your case too?

USAFRet · Jul 27, 2016

What bugs and incompatibility did you experience?

boju · Jul 27, 2016

I went back to Win7 because i my gear didn't have manufacture support and didn't want to rely on Microsoft's own drivers + i had a good working printer with no Win10 support. Win10 isn't for me right now but never really had any breaking issues though, especially coming from a clean install after the upgrade which is always recommended.

junkeymonkey · Jul 27, 2016

luckly I knew better to start with .. but think you did get dx12 , dx12 omg you got dx12 ..lol....

kittle · Jul 27, 2016

I run both. Win7 on my main desktop so i can play games and try stuff with no fear of compatibility issues. Then win10 on my laptop so i can get to know the new OS in all its weirdness and check to see if things are truly not compatible, or just broken.
But I have yet to find anything that worked in win7 and was broken in win10.

The main issues I have run into is dealing with all the new things in Win10. That just takes time.

Same question as well -- What bugs incompatibility problems have you run into?

Rogue Leader · Jul 27, 2016

+1 on wondering what in the world could be wrong.

Between myself, wife, parents, and sister & bro in law I have about 12 computers of various ages some as old as about 6 years we upgraded to Win 10 and other than a minor issue with my Sound card which Creative corrected a couple months after release we have had 0 problems. It works excellently.

Wolfshadw · Jul 27, 2016

My HTPC has critical hardware that is not supported by Windows 10, so it stays at Windows 7.
My main computer has been running Windows 10 without issue for some time now. No intent to turn it back.
My mother's computer was upgraded (not computer literate, clicked the Windows 10 "X" which activated the upgrade). Windows 10 network drivers did not work so she couldn't access e-mail or the Internet. I ended up spending several hours rolling her system back to Windows 7 (and the drivers still did not work). After a few more reboots and reinstall of the router software, the drivers finally came back online.

-Wolf sends

Kefa__ · Jul 27, 2016

Win10 is incompatible with my tinfoil hat!

MS has said that win10 is the end of the line. And they want a ton of people on it desperately. So, where is their new income stream? Selling our information to advertisers? Is that all what all that data collect stuff is for? Following the google model? But MS never said they would do no evil!!!

(halfway joking here, halfway)

junkeymonkey · Jul 27, 2016

about the only reason to use windows is just ease of gaming if it was not for pc games being hog tied to Microsoft and dx would not even need it anyway Linux or mac just as good for everything else today if games were to ditch dx and go opengl then you would see native games for Linux like id games were with full Linux clients and Microsoft knows this and keep that strangle hold

so if it was not for pc games I don't see any need for windows just everyone fell in to there proprietary trap and now cant get out
for normal everyday pc use anything is just as good if not better then windows

Rafael Mestdag · Jul 27, 2016

USAFRet :

For starters the taskbar stopped working correctly a couple of times, then there is the issue of not being able to dual boot with Windows 7 because everytime I get back to Win7 the HDD's must be checked for consistency or something(then no Windows will boot after a while).

As I am a gamer, I have been experiencing black screens which cannot be solved by pressing Ctrl+Alt+del since the black screen will persist until I hard reset.

Plus a couple of programs I have don't work on Windows 10(the one I recall is HWMonitor, causes BSOD).

That's basically it.

dudeman509 · Jul 27, 2016

HWMonitor works fine on every W10 system I've got. Sounds like you have graphics driver issues. I'd try completely uninstalling all W10 drivers for the graphics and re-installing the latest versions of them.

I did roll one laptop back because there was a driver issue with first-gen Intel/ATI switchable graphics that would leave my entire screen black, and Windows kept FORCING its driver on me. I was able to rectify that later down the road, and it is now running W10 happily.

USAFRet · Jul 27, 2016

Rafael Mestdag :

USAFRet :

For starters the taskbar stopped working correctly a couple of times, then there is the issue of not being able to dual boot with Windows 7 because everytime I get back to Win7 the HDD's must be checked for consistency or something(then no Windows will boot after a while).

As I am a gamer, I have been experiencing black screens which cannot be solved by pressing Ctrl+Alt+del since the black screen will persist until I hard reset.

Plus a couple of programs I have don't work on Windows 10(the one I recall is HWMonitor, causes BSOD).

That's basically it.

I had 10 happily dualbooting Win 7, and then 8.1. No issues.
Taskbar? No idea. Never seen that issue.

junkeymonkey · Jul 27, 2016

windows 10 will not except games with secur rom or any drm

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/08/windows-10-wont-run-games-with-securom-drm-says-microsoft-2/

like I said knew better to start with ;;win 10 great for gaming ;;, right...... looks like it sucks all around to me with that and all the rest that ''don't work '' anymore

what would I want a os as that ? all these games or any good old program [that still fully works on 7] I got maybe 1/2 may not work or have to find work around ''hacks '' to make them ??

this guys finding out

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3127185/crysis-original-windows.html

unless you buying all new skylake or only use steam type rental games 10 maybe ok ?? out side of that never happen

USAFRet · Jul 27, 2016

junkeymonkey :

Interesting that your justification for "Windows 10 = Bad" is an article that completely blasts the very thing that Windows 10 will not work with, SecuROM.
To me, that sounds like a GoodThing.

junkeymonkey · Jul 27, 2016

if you paid for things to find you now cant use them or got to go rent from steam ? maybe you enjoy that ?? I got good money in my games that I hold the games '' fully on a retail disk no steam no uplay no internet required no 3ed party malware clients .. not games I got to hope steam lets me play and in the end you really got nothing unless ''they'' allow you to [LOL] suckers... that's right usafret good for them , I don't need a OS that renders my stuff useless but maybe you like that ??? then good for you

these are games / programs for windows but just not win 10 anymore they don't want you to ''own'' software you get it off the cloud at there terms as they see fit

sad thing is vista was better os and better received then 10 has
you sure can tell when the truth hurts

USAFRet · Jul 27, 2016

junkeymonkey :

From your link:
"Fortunately, the dark days of DRM are largely behind us, and many of those older SecuROM games have since been patched by developers or publishers to remove DRM. "

But you go ahead and hang onto your broken games.

junkeymonkey · Jul 27, 2016

how are they broken?? just under 10 and all microsofts doing at that silly. nice try get real

just stick the disk in 7 vista or xp [don't matter] click install load it up and play ,hmmmm..... funny notice don't go to steam and down load or except there clients or even need the internet at all .. I ''own'' and hold the full retail game with out outside interference of any kind .. this is what there taking away from you and 10 is the icing on that cake

Rogue Leader · Jul 27, 2016

So... you can patch most games that have this issue. A couple of nearly 10+ year old games haven't been patched.

So therefore Windows 10 sucks.

Sounds like operator error to me.

TechyInAZ · Jul 28, 2016

If you need to run a 10+ year old game, then sure windows 7 or older will be better. But that ALWAYS has been the case. I remember the days where you could only run old games on windows XP and not Windows 7. So windows 10 isn't really the issue here. (Sure back then it wasn't a DRM issue, but there is ALWAYS at least one issue with running older games on newer OSes.)

Plus, there are only a few people these days who actually still frequently play 10 year old games.

Now that windows 10 has matured, it's been AWSOME!! Way more stable than Windows 7 (which was Windows Update's fault), and is a lot faster than windows 7. I've had no reliability issues with 10.

bicycle_repair_man · Jul 28, 2016

I've not had any problems since upgrading to W10, even though my motherboard has no W10 drivers. The only thing that nearly made me go back to W7 were forced driver updates, but I found out how to disable those.

Privacy is a big concern but I think it's unfounded for the most part. You can disable all the privacy and ad-based stuff, and chances are Microsoft was already harvesting data with W7, just not as much.

jimmysmitty · Jul 28, 2016

junkeymonkey :

I don't quite think you know that much about OSes or how well they were received.

Vista was not a better OS. The original version of Superfetch in it caused issues. It wasn't a good OS until SP1 and it took time for the normal consumer hardware to be decent enough to even consider Vista, most systems had too low RAN and single core CPUs while Vista ran better with 2GB, 4GB preferably, and dual cores.

Vista was by no means a horrible OS but it was not better than 10, even fully patched, performance and quality wise.

As for its reception, Vista was hated. Most people stuck with XP until 7 came out. 7 was better received than Vista but the funny thing is that 10 has been outpacing adoption of Windows 7 by 140% and 7 was vastly better received than Vista.

As for SecuROM, that was a flawed DRM that no one cares about. I use Steam because it is convenient. I no longer have to keep track of a disc or key code. I have been using it for quite a while and unless there is a country ending event I doubt Steam is going anywhere, especially considering the next closest competition is still considered crap.

TechyInAZ · Jul 28, 2016

jimmysmitty :

junkeymonkey :

I don't quite think you know that much about OSes or how well they were received.

Vista was not a better OS. The original version of Superfetch in it caused issues. It wasn't a good OS until SP1 and it took time for the normal consumer hardware to be decent enough to even consider Vista, most systems had too low RAN and single core CPUs while Vista ran better with 2GB, 4GB preferably, and dual cores.

Vista was by no means a horrible OS but it was not better than 10, even fully patched, performance and quality wise.

As for its reception, Vista was hated. Most people stuck with XP until 7 came out. 7 was better received than Vista but the funny thing is that 10 has been outpacing adoption of Windows 7 by 140% and 7 was vastly better received than Vista.

As for SecuROM, that was a flawed DRM that no one cares about. I use Steam because it is convenient. I no longer have to keep track of a disc or key code. I have been using it for quite a while and unless there is a country ending event I doubt Steam is going anywhere, especially considering the next closest competition is still considered crap.

The reason why windows 10 is outpacing windows 7 is because of the free upgrade. I doubt we'd see numbers this high if it wasn't free.

simonchipmunk · Jul 28, 2016

i have windows 10 on 5 of my 7pcc's. i kept Windows 7 on my Gateway desktop, and my little Hp laptop, because the the Gateway is connected to my Hp Photosmart C4680 all in one printer, which is incompatible with Windows 10, and my little Hp laptop only has 40 gigs and doesn't have a dual processor.
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randomizer · Jul 28, 2016

I went back to Windows 8.1, not 7, but I suspect the question is more concerned with the decision to change back than the target OS version.

The several hundred millisecond delay I had opening some system tray applications (eg. clock/calendar) and the buggy toggling behaviour of said applications made it seem like it missed a few QA passes. The start menu is a bizarre mashup of two UIs that don't work together. The calculator has a splash screen (!) and takes an order of magnitude more time to start up than it should. Windows update notifications are full screen modal dialogs.

I think I ran into some application compatibility problems too but I don't recall what wasn't working. It was nearly 12 months ago that I tried it. I certainly don't have the patience to go through the process again when my system is already running fine.

Rafael Mestdag · Jul 28, 2016

randomizer :

Exactly.

Who's tried Windows 10 and then decided to stick to Win7? Why?

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