Buying these parts PC parts tomorrow. Thoughts Please. First Costome PC build.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

Hey everyone I plan on buy these parts tomorrow. Please let me know if I should change anything or if you see any red flags. I will mainly be using this for gaming and some work with large files. One thing I cant decide is, someone said I need a 1440p monitor to get the most out of my GPU. So I was curious if yall thought I should get a cheaper 1080p monitor and get a cheaper GPU. And please give me your thought on just getting a 24' 1080p monitor without downgrading the GPU.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gRqmgL

Few short questions: How does my motherboard look? Will the power supply be enough?

bitwright · Jul 28, 2016

What do you mean by "some work with large files"? If this is mainly a gaming rig, then you might not really need hyperthreading and could save yourself $100 by switching to an i5 6500 instead.

Your choice of mobo seems fine. At least I didn't see any glaring negative reviews for it. And your choice of PSU seems fine too. Since you aren't overclocking 550W should be enough.

As for the video card, the GTX 1070 is superb for 1080p, but in my opinion isn't really "overkill" at that resolution. The GTX 1060 is the card most people are recommending for 1080p though, and it's much cheaper than the GTX 1070. But if you choose to go with a GTX 1070 and a 1080p monitor, I don't think that would be a waste of money. That's just my personal opinion though.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

bitwright :

Forget the work thing. But you are the second person to suggest a 15 6500 instead. I really didnt know the difference before but after looking into it and since it is mainly going to be used for gaming i think i might switch to the i5 6500. How do you feel about the current monitor choice 27" 1440p 144hz? Too big?

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

Nah, that monitor is a great value monitor, very good quality, and will futureproof you if you decide to go 1070 SLI.
I would actually recommend picking up a 1080 to go with it, pushes more frames, and will allow you to get the most out of your monitor, maxing everything. Power supply can be changed out for something better value and equal quality, and the same case in a different color is $40 cheaper on newegg with some discounts etc.

Put this together for just over 2000, see part picker direct link for discounts.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dnYf9W
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dnYf9W/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.13 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.85 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($537.00 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($31.48 @ B&H)
Other: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($649.00)
Total: $2010.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 19:44 EDT-0400

bitwright · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

Lol. I didn't even notice the monitor when I first took a look at that parts list

That's a nice monitor, and it should work well with a GTX 1070, especially since it supports G-Sync, but I have to agree with Chugalug_, if you want to make the most of that 144Hz 1440p monitor, I would also recommend going with a GTX 1080 if you can afford it.

azaran · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

The build looks very solid.

The big difference with the i7 vs i5 is multi threading. If you're using something like Photoshop, or video editing or 3d rendering the multi threading in an i7 is a huge performance increase over the single threading that an i5. Traditionally in gaming, there was no point in getting a multi threaded CPU as most games are single threaded. However the i7-6700 is showing increased performance in single threaded games over the i5-6500, something that really wasn't a thing in previous generations. If those big files you're talking about are in editing programs I think you'd do well to go with the i7 If you can afford the extra $100 to throw at the i7 you'll get more performance out of it, but really only you can decide if the extra $100 is worth it.

As for the rest of your build, you picked out pretty much top parts. The motherboard and CPU cooler that Chugalug posted are nice steps up and will look much better through the window in your case. The PSU however is not as good as the one you linked. The Evga G2 line is a better built unit than the XFX TS line, and it costs the same so there's absolutely no reason to change that around.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

azaran :

While the G2 line is indeed better than the XFX TS by a small margin, the XFX TS is made by Seasonic, and is a very good quality PSU. You are getting an extra 100w for the same price with similar quality as I mentioned, so it's not much of an issue given the pricing. Keep in mind even though the G2 line is very good, a lot of its quality is exaggerated through popularity and brand.
There are many better alternatives by good OEMs that are in the same price range for much better value, although the G2 series has the 750w price point locked down for sure.
Superflower and Seasonic are the two leading PSU manufacturers at the moment by the way.
550w is the bare minimum I would recommend with the 1080, as if you choose to go for an aftermarket card like the MSI Gaming X for example, the card will use more power, and will go into the range of 600 which is dangerous with a 550w PSU, even for the G2.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Note: The XFX TS series are part of the Seasonic G series platform, just rebranded, and the EVGA G2 series is manufactured by Superflower.
The XFX is still high quality and good value for money.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

azaran :

Jack_162 :

The build looks very solid.

The big difference with the i7 vs i5 is multi threading. If you're using something like Photoshop, or video editing or 3d rendering the multi threading in an i7 is a huge performance increase over the single threading that an i5. Traditionally in gaming, there was no point in getting a multi threaded CPU as most games are single threaded. However the i7-6700 is showing increased performance in single threaded games over the i5-6500, something that really wasn't a thing in previous generations. If those big files you're talking about are in editing programs I think you'd do well to go with the i7 If you can afford the extra $100 to throw at the i7 you'll get more performance out of it, but really only you can decide if the extra $100 is worth it.

As for the rest of your build, you picked out pretty much top parts. The motherboard and CPU cooler that Chugalug posted are nice steps up and will look much better through the window in your case. The PSU however is not as good as the one you linked. The Evga G2 line is a better built unit than the XFX TS line, and it costs the same so there's absolutely no reason to change that around.

Thank you so much for your help. When you say PSU your talking about the power supply right (ima noob)? The link to the gtx1080 said it was sold out. Do your really think the difference will be noticeable?

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

This is good info because I was told by someone else that i might want a better power supply. Also the GTX 1080 look sto be sold out plus is a good bit ,ore expensive. Do you really think it will make a difference?

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

azaran :

Thank you so much for your help. When you say PSU your talking about the power supply right (ima noob)? The link to the gtx1080 said it was sold out. Do your really think the difference will be noticeable?

The difference will be very noticeable, I went from a 980ti to a 1080, and while maxed out in games it pushes you over that 60FPS point in games, meaning that G-Sync is just the cherry on top, and the framerate is much more stable and smoother.
Yeah, and PSU means power supply, just a common abbreviation.
Its definitely worth waiting for the G1 Gaming to come back in stock due to the current price inflation on other models.
Unless you're willing to spend an extra $80 to get in early, best to wait.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

Jack_162 :

azaran :

Thank you so much for your help. When you say PSU your talking about the power supply right (ima noob)? The link to the gtx1080 said it was sold out. Do your really think the difference will be noticeable?

The difference will be very noticeable, I went from a 980ti to a 1080, and while maxed out in games it pushes you over that 60FPS point in games, meaning that G-Sync is just the cherry on top, and the framerate is much more stable and smoother.
Yeah, and PSU means power supply, just a common abbreviation.
Its definitely worth waiting for the G1 Gaming to come back in stock due to the current price inflation on other models.
Unless you're willing to spend an extra $80 to get in early, best to wait.

I meant do you think the difference will be noticeable between the gtx 1070 and the gtx 1080. I also really wanted to order everything tomorrow....

azaran · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

XFX is very good quality, they and EVGA and Seasonic branded PSU's are my top 3. I didn't notice initially that you'd gone with a 650w for the system, so my chief complaint was pricing of a non modular vs fully modular PSU. Reviews do vary but the TS line is usually a few points below the G2 line. Not a huge margin to be sure, but enough to take notice if you're picking between the two.

The thing is, this system is maybe hitting 400w at load, so a 550w is more than enough for it as stands with the i7 and the 1080. Even overclocking its not hitting 500w. Now if you're going to get in to SLI or some really hungry video cards, then moving to a 650 or 750 would make a lot of sense. But given how much power the system really needs, I'd go with a fully modular 550w over a non modular 650w of equal build quality.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

azaran :

I agree that a fully modular PSU is definitely a key factor when deciding between the two, but as I mentioned, this is typically only an issue with the 1080s with additional power connectors. There is an example of said power concerns in I think the MSI Gaming X review done by Guru 3D, although their CPU was a 5960x overclocked to 4.4GHz, the system drew close to peak 600w under gaming load, which concerns me given that synthetic benchmarks could push a system further, meaning a system like an i5 1080 build with an additional power connector could draw between 550-600 under artificial load, which could be a problem if trying to overclock the GPU.
I think that a 650w is more futureproof as well in the sense that its probably a middleground for most rigs, making it more versatile should OP decide to upgrade to an i7 6700k in the future.

It does cost the same price after all, so in my opinion the benefits far outweigh the concerns of a non modular PSU.
If OP is getting the Gigabyte 1080 as listed, get the Seasonic S12II 520w ($59) or the EVGA G2 550w ($76) if you want a modular power supply and are not concerned about upgrading. If OP plans to upgrade to an i7 6700k and Z170 board in the future, or is getting a 1080 with an additional power connector, get the XFX TS 650w ($79), which is my personal recommendation based on the fact that you are getting that extra 100w of security, near equal build quality and upgrade versatility.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

Chugalug_ :

Jack_162 :

The difference will be very noticeable, I went from a 980ti to a 1080, and while maxed out in games it pushes you over that 60FPS point in games, meaning that G-Sync is just the cherry on top, and the framerate is much more stable and smoother.
Yeah, and PSU means power supply, just a common abbreviation.
Its definitely worth waiting for the G1 Gaming to come back in stock due to the current price inflation on other models.
Unless you're willing to spend an extra $80 to get in early, best to wait.

I meant do you think the difference will be noticeable between the gtx 1070 and the gtx 1080. I also really wanted to order everything tomorrow....

Then get the XFX 650w power supply and the MSI Gaming X 1080.
The reason I used the 980ti as a reference is that it performs essentially the same as a 1070, and performs better than it overclocked, which is what I came from.
I used it as a point of reference because its pretty much coming from the same thing, as I don't currently own a 1070.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

azaran :

I agree that a fully modular PSU is definitely a key factor when deciding between the two, but as I mentioned, this is typically only an issue with the 1080s with additional power connectors. There is an example of said power concerns in I think the MSI Gaming X review done by Guru 3D, although their CPU was a 5960x overclocked to 4.4GHz, the system drew close to peak 600w under gaming load, which concerns me given that synthetic benchmarks could push a system further, meaning a system like an i5 1080 build with an additional power connector could draw between 550-600 under artificial load, which could be a problem if trying to overclock the GPU.
I think that a 650w is more futureproof as well in the sense that its probably a middleground for most rigs, making it more versatile should OP decide to upgrade to an i7 6700k in the future.

It does cost the same price after all, so in my opinion the benefits far outweigh the concerns of a non modular PSU.
If OP is getting the Gigabyte 1080 as listed, get the Seasonic S12II 520w ($59) or the EVGA G2 550w ($76) if you want a modular power supply and are not concerned about upgrading. If OP plans to upgrade to an i7 6700k and Z170 board in the future, or is getting a 1080 with an additional power connector, get the XFX TS 650w ($79), which is my personal recommendation based on the fact that you are getting that extra 100w of security, near equal build quality and upgrade versatility.

Again thanks for your help. Now that im looking at the gtx 1080 the cheapest one is the msi gtx 1080. What worries me is that there are no reviews or anything. thoughts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8rcCJ/msi-video-card-geforcegtx1080aero8goc

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Here is your final build OP, i've gone for the H170 Gaming 3, as I feel that with the amount of money you're spending, a better motherboard for $30 more is worth the investment due to the additional connectors it provides.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxNBZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxNBZ8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.85 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($537.00 @ Adorama)
Other: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($649.00)
Total: $1969.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 23:45 EDT-0400

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Do NOT get the Aero.
Essentially a crappy version of the Founders Edition intended for absolute budget builds that want to squeeze in a 1080.
The price isn't even good, costs the same as the G1 Gaming.
It suffers from heavy thermal throttling, and sounds like a damn jet engine under load.
Steer clear.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

The inflated cost of the MSI Gaming X is about $75 compared to the Gigabyte, are you sure you can't wait a bit longer?
The more money saved the better.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

Yeah I reckon i can wait...... I was just lookin forward to tomorrow. Thanks again this is what i needed.

Jack_162 · Jul 28, 2016

Chugalug_ :

Did you mean to change the ram to 8gb instead of 16gb?

bitwright · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

Go with 16GB. It's only $20-$30 more, and 8gb is really starting to cut it close. I'm guessing chugalug made a mistake there too.

Chugalug_ · Jul 28, 2016

Jack_162 :

No I did not, must have been from another build I was making. Fixed now.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxNBZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxNBZ8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.85 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($537.00 @ Adorama)
Other: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($649.00)
Total: $1969.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-28 23:45 EDT-0400

TacticalBeard · Aug 18, 2016

i would get a higher watt PSU

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