gtx 1060 or rx 480 if they are being sold at the same price?

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I have bought the motherboard, processor and DIMMs with either the AMD RX480 and the gtx 1060 in mind and now the time has come to choose what graphics card I'll be using for at least the next 2 years, that's the goal I have in mind. Now I have found these two models being sold at the same price, more specifically MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Dual Fans OC HDMI DP 6GB and
Sapphire Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ 2xHDMI 2xDP 8GB

Sooo, which one is best considering they are at the same price?

Thanks in advance.
 
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I would say it would be best to get the RX 480. DX11 as of right now is getting replaced by DX12 (but nobody knows the rate it is getting replaced). So sense the RX 480 overall performs better in dx12 and vulcan I would go that route.
However, this is up to personal user preference, are you wanting to play the latest games down the line at the highest fps? Or are you wanting to run your previous DX11 titles at the highest possible fps? The choice is yours.
 
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True, but last time I checked (and I could be completely wrong) physX wasnt put into very many games at all (kinda like the 3d gimmick lol,), and the games that it was put into never really utilized except from a extra unneeded graphical feature.
And if worse comes to worse you can always enable your cpu to utilize physX.
 
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PhysX isn't something most ppl would miss, most times its very little things like hair movement being a more natural looking, bullets actually blowing chips, not just a hole in a wall etc. AMD cards do use physX to some degree but it's done through the cpu instead of the gpu, so kinda takes a back seat in the details. But then again, if you insist on playing max ultra settings to get the most amount of realism in a game, not having gpu physX can be a deal breaker.

1 card has sli limitations, the other doesn't, 1 card has (don't argue) better drivers and software, the other doesn't. 1 card is green, the other is red. They are both very respectable cards, it'll be a matter of what appeals more to op.
 
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That can be argues about better drivers, currently in games like total war amd actually does have the better drivers :D
 
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That's game engine optimization, not drivers. While the Crimson drivers for the amd cards were a decent revamp over the older catalyst drivers, they can still be somewhat buggy for some ppl although if you just use the drivers alone you tend to be ok. If you actually install the software, chances of something going nuts were greatly increased. Nvidia is also good about staying on top of driver updates to incorporate new cards or games, which amd is sadly lacking at. Last I heard, amd still hasn't gotten the drivers for the 480 to play nice with a mac, which is something that's basically been standard with nvidia cards for years.
 
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Macs....were talking about macs now? (sorry getting tired right now, my humor is not very good). But while it is kinda nice for the mac to have driver support why in the heck should they have it? Macs are meant for multi media purposes, they are not meant for gaming in any real meaningful way. And also no, the chances of something going bonkers in not increased at all with a full software install. Fun fact for you, whenever you are installing a geforce experience on your computer it is actually installing a WHOLE new application to replace your current one. (sorry if I sound like a negative looney, its 2:18AM here and im gonna get some shut eye).
 
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ide say hold out for the new ti NVidia cards till amd fixes the power draw issues and stuff on their newer cards ben seing all over the news that the new radeon cards are drawing to much power from the pci bus and can fry or damage mainboards . they ben trying to fix it with new drivers. but so far drivers still weren't fixing the problem so stay away fromt he radeons till its fixed.
also news about them failing pci express specifications or some thing alon those lines in the articles Ive read.

This is what Heise Online had to report after their testing:
In games, the Radeon RX 480 exceeds 150 Watt thermal design power and PCIe specification. On average, we have 156 watts measured at games, in Furmark the card even pulls at reduced clock 169 watts. Extremely problematic is the fact that the Radeon RX 480 draws up to 88 watts from motherboard slot, although specifications only allow 75 watts. This may in some motherboards cause instability. Since AMD card already operates above the standard, far above the limit, it is not advised to perform overclocking experiments with the reference design, which has only one additional 6-pin connector. Here one can only hope that AMD’s partners offer boards with standards-compliant layout and sufficient power supply.
 
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the better.

Golem.de, A German site, said this:
Our measurements show that the reference design easily overloads PCIE slot. To be specific it’s 5.5 amps at 12 volts, 66 watts total. The Radeon RX 480 draws 78-83 watts out of the slot, which is more than power coming from 6-pin connector. Excessive load from PCIe slot is not limited, because it’s within safe reserves. In the worst case scenario the motherboard would switch off. However with our Asus Z170-Deluxe in the test system, the Radeon RX 480 ran smoothly, and also with our MSI Z97 Gaming 3 there were no abnormalities. Nevertheless, the overload can theoretically lead to reboots or even damage, especially with overclocking.
 
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There are 3 possibilities now, AMD would choose to remove the PCI Express logos from these cards, or they’ll either alter the boards to have an 8-pin socket and draw more power from there, or they will neuter the card to ensure it doesn’t draw more power than the PCI Express specification allows.

AMD is well aware of the problem and they addressed this issue with the help of a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) where Raja Koduri said:
“We have extensive testing internally on our PCIE compliance and RX480 passed our testing. However we have received feedback from some of the reviewers on high current observed on PCIE in some cases. We are looking into these scenarios as we speak and reproduce these scenarios internally. Our engineering team is fully engaged.”
 
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Tom’s Hardware:


AMD’s Radeon RX 480 draws an average of 164W, which exceeds the company’s target TDP. And it gets worse. The load distribution works out in a way that has the card draw 86W through the motherboard’s PCIe slot. Not only does this exceed the 75W ceiling we typically associate with a 16-lane slot, but that 75W limit covers several rails combined and not just this one interface.

With peaks of up to 155W, we have to be thankful they’re brief, and not putting the motherboard in any immediate danger. However, the audio subsystems on cheaper platforms will have a hard time dealing with them. This means that the “you can hear what you see” effect will be in full force during load changes; activities like scrolling may very well result in audible artifacts.

We’re also left to wonder what we’d see from a CrossFire configuration. Two graphics cards would draw 160W via the motherboard’s 24-pin connector; that’s a tall order. Switching from the bars back to a more detailed curve makes this even more evident.

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and this ones from our own site toms hardware was specifically quouted on a few other sites.
 
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Almost all those problems are with the reference releases. The better partner cards use custom pcbs and have additional components, different power delivery etc so that redesign could or probably will fix the issues reported on the amd factory cards.
 
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they tried fixing with a driver update but believe its hardware based .
I keeps seeing news about it on my android device every other day or so with a new article so till they fix em ide wait till the run out and have the issue completely fixed
 
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That's not how things work you work you know wildcard (about it being hard ware based). The card has to download drivers to work properly. U know when u put a new gpu in a system. Windows will start in a lower resolution then Windows update will download the latest driver (unless you have a freakishly fast internet, because then you don't see the low resolution because it already downloaded and installed)

Oh and fun fact, the over tdp problem is only on old pcie slot 2.0 and lower. Anybody who is running a pcie slot 2.0 should probably not even get this card because it is probably using a much weaker/older cousin socket (examples: lga 775, am2+, lga 1156, fm2, and to some extent am3+ (I have a Intel and Amd rig, and while in the majority of cases am3+ has pcie 3.0 i got unlucky and got a pcie 2.0 board)

All in all Amd was probably thinking: How stupid must a consumer be to buy this board for pcie slot 2......great job community we proved them wrong.
 
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