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I am making a build that has a gtx 1070 gpu and am having trouble finding a screen that supports gsync. To my knowledge, gsync is supposed to stop (or at least prevent) tearing in the picture of the game with the tradeoff being slightly (probably imperceptible) less responsive controls. My question is "Do I need gsync in my computer monitors to avoid tearing?" This is a pretty good graphics card, but I'm having a hard time picking a monitor that can match it's power. I want duel monitors but every gsync screen is ~$500. A lot of the screens I see are 1440 with good frames and ~$200-$300 but lack gsync. Can you guys make recommendations for monitors for me please? Also, can I ask what a typical budget for a gaming/editing PC is. This is my first build, and I don't have any pc parts, a desk, or sound system and I keep going overboard and using $2000 for this not including peripherals. Sorry I wrote so much!

TLDR: I want to know if I need a gsync screen to avoid tearing while I game on my pc. Is there any way to avoid this? Can I use a regular 1440p res with a gtx1070 and i7 6700 (Non-k)?
Specs:
i7 6700 (not K)
EVGA Gtx 1070
 
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Screen tearing happens when the frame rate produced by your card is higher than monitor refresh rate.
That can cause that parts of 2 frames sent to the monitor. and if the change is huge between those two, you will see the two "teared" images composed together.
You don't really NEED G-Sync monitor - IMHO, they are overrated for their price. You will be fine with any 1080p@144Hz or above monitor.
There is a Fast Sync introduced with pascal which removes the screen tearing without introducing noticeable lag. You can enable it in Nvidia Control Panel.
For most fun, you should aim at 1440p@144Hz monitors or ideally 3440x1440@75Hz. Unfortunately, the later is expensive. I'm waiting for the black Friday or may be even the year end to get it...
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Screen tearing happens when the frame rate produced by your card is higher than monitor refresh rate.
That can cause that parts of 2 frames sent to the monitor. and if the change is huge between those two, you will see the two "teared" images composed together.
You don't really NEED G-Sync monitor - IMHO, they are overrated for their price. You will be fine with any 1080p@144Hz or above monitor.
There is a Fast Sync introduced with pascal which removes the screen tearing without introducing noticeable lag. You can enable it in Nvidia Control Panel.
For most fun, you should aim at 1440p@144Hz monitors or ideally 3440x1440@75Hz. Unfortunately, the later is expensive. I'm waiting for the black Friday or may be even the year end to get it at 600-700$.
The non K CPU is fine though a K would be better for the long run.
Also, what other specs you have in mind ? (MB and PSU are important)
 
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Here's my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QbJGcc

I would love some to know what you think. I believe it is a typical build. My budget is $3,000 for all the pc parts, the desk, and any peripherals I need. I'm not trying to go full on enthusiast nor spend all the money on everything, but it is what I have to work with. I do not know what a normal build or budget is supposed to look like so I would some feedback please. Thank you for responding so quickly to my post :D
 
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I put in the sound blaster because I wanted to use a sound system. Initially I used a monitor with no speakers and idk if the mobo I chose had speakers so I put it in to be safe. Thank you for easing my anxieties btw, lol at first it was kind of fun picking out pc parts but then it got expensive (which was to be expected), and I had to learn about all sorts of different things like hyperthreading, sound channels, ram vs. ssd, etc. It was somewhat overwhelming and in the end of the day I still have doubts about my build.
Oh and I chose not to go with the k series cpu because I did not want to overclock and the price was pretty steep.
 
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I still see no reason to use Sound Blaster as the one on the mother board is very decent one.
I also don't understand the case for 200$ (IMHO, a Fractal Design Define S is an awesome option), but that's up to you.
Here is a "fixed" build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII RANGER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($189.98 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($439.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 120W 2.1ch Speakers ($179.47 @ Amazon)
Total: $1792.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-31 04:29 EDT-0400
 
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Here's one I had my eye on since you told me that Gsync isn't necessary.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Computer-Ultrasharp-U2415-24-0-Inch/dp/B00NZTKOQI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1470008606&sr=8-2&keywords=dell+u2515h

I like the curve part for gaming and movies, but for editing it would probably throw me off. I also really like the 21:9 ratio, but apparently many games/videos don't support it yet.
Oh also, the motherboard you reccomended doesn't allow 2 storage devices on it.

"The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6Gb/s port is disabled."
That's what it tells me. I don't want to edit any changes you've made, but I really wanted an ssd with my pc. Is there any way to fix the error?

 
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Don't worry about storage, it is about M.2 in SATA mode - your SSD is PCIe one. and even if it was SATA, you have 6 ports, doubt you will ever use more than 2.
regarding the monitor, there is no point in GTX 1070 without at least 1080p@144Hz or better 1440p@144Hz monitor.
The one you selected 1920x1200@60Hz, will be better matched with GTX 1060. There are 3440x1440p flat monitors. they are even cheaper. the only downside is that they are "just" 60Hz.
 
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Simple. Hz number is the number of frames the display will able to draw every second. So with 60Hz monitor, you will see only 60frames per second even if your card does 200FPS.
on 1080p resolution GTX 1070 doing way over 60 FPS in any game. So only paring it with 144Hz monitor makes some sense in very fast games.
otherwise GTX 1060 is doing 60-100FPS in most games on 1080p.
Pairing GTX 1070 with 1080p@60Hz monitor is like no point in putting 6 litter engine in ford focus :)
You don't change monitor very often, pick a good one.
 
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