is this 3Dmark score hight enough to run games on Ultra?

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

i'm getting huge fps drops in games like GTA V, Warhammer, Nba 2k16 and few more

the only game is fine Ultra 1080p 60fps without drop is battlefield 4

i look a lot of benchmark with the same gpu cpu combo and I'm getting almost the same score but in games i'm not getting the same performance. The temp for the cpu is not an issue, the h115 keeps under 60c after 2 or 3 hours of games

my rig is:
- FX8350 @4.9
- Gtx 1070 G1
- 16GB DDR3

i have tried everything i know, DDU unistaller to remove old drivers, install clean drivers, put windows on max performance, high priority for games on task manager and it keeps the same.

any help to solve this will be appreciate, thanks

dexxterlab97 · Aug 2, 2016

Your CPU is really really bottlenecking your computer. That is why you get frame drops from these games. Get an intel cpu asap

iyzik · Aug 2, 2016

dexxterlab97 :

+1

You need an i5 or i7

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

Yep below par cpu with top end gpu

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

an i5 6600k will get the work?

Rogue Leader · Aug 2, 2016

dexxterlab97 :

iyzik :

burgessanthony :

While I am no huge fan of an FX processor anymore these days I am going to call wrong, wrong, and wrong, on these answers.

My AMD processor, older and not even as powerful as the FX-8350 games on ultra at 1080p without frame drops.

There has to be something else going on here. Do you have any additional processes running? Are you trying to record or anything else?

I'm gonna call in some help here as well.

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

Rogue Leader :

dexxterlab97 :

iyzik :

burgessanthony :

While I am no huge fan of an FX processor anymore these days I am going to call wrong, wrong, and wrong, on these answers.

My AMD processor, older and not even as powerful as the FX-8350 games on ultra at 1080p without frame drops.

There has to be something else going on here. Do you have any additional processes running? Are you trying to record or anything else?

I'm gonna call in some help here as well.

i don't record anything, the only program i run is aida64 to check my temps. the only thing i didn't day is that I'm playing at 2560x1080 i don't know if is a huge performance difference between 1980x1080 and my res

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

Wrong. Gpu score fine. Physics score is quite low. Google cpu benchmarks and you'll see the fx8 not being enough for the 1070 in some titles.

bignastyid · Aug 2, 2016

What happens if you remove the OC on the cpu? Try monitoring gpu and cpu usages and clock speeds while playing and see what they do when the fps drop occur.

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

bignastyid :

i will check it

CTurbo · Aug 2, 2016

What motherboard are you using?

The motherboard will make or break a FX8350. The FX8350 should be good enough to provide decent fps although it is only comparable to an i3, BUT if you are using a subpar motherboard, and MOST AM3 motherboards are, your 125w FX will be throttled to death and will absolutely give you terrible performance. Temps are not an indicator of throttling. Temps are fine BECAUSE of throttling.

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

CTurbo :

my mobo is 970a ud3p

CTurbo · Aug 2, 2016

The UD3P is one of the better AM3 boards. Have you tried what bignastyid suggested?

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

CTurbo :

not yet but i will, i just loaded factory bios setting

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-linux-society-1000004/upgrade-cpu-or-gpu-for-gta-v-32010398/

Second graph on that page...reckon you can expect lows of 50fps with that cpu. I know not a direct comparison (FX9 and using SLI), but best I could find.

iyzik · Aug 2, 2016

I don't have Warhammer or NBA 2K16 but I do play GTA V 1080p ultra and even with my rig is has some pretty bad dips into the low 40's every once in a while. I have every setting on max, a 4670K @ 4.2GHz and a GTX 1070, and it will still dip into the 40's when shit hits the fan. Whats weird to me is that when the dips happen, neither the CPU or GPU are anywhere near 100% load...nonetheless, I still do get dips with an i5 so with an FX I'd imagine they would be a little worse.

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

I haven't played GTA V on my PC but I have heard the same. Believe its down to optimisation. Although yes, it's a very cpu heavy game and I believe even i7's can see frame drops. FX's certainly will. To what extent is another question.

Rogue Leader · Aug 2, 2016

Lets be clear here,

The FX-8350 is not an i5 and I never claimed it would perform as well. However without asking questions and having him try different things to blanket respond "The processor is a massive bottleneck" and "replace it with an i5" is the WRONG answer. Especially because that processor has proven to be perfectly capable of delivering 1080p at 60fps in many titles. While his physics score is lower than a good i5, its not "quite low" either.

Since his original post we have found he is running a wide HD monitor (extra bit of resolution), we know he has a decent motherboard (because the 8350 on a weak motherboard can throttle), and as well with his overclock it may be pushed too far (we don't know until he tests). And of course the fact that GTA V has programming issues. Also I have heard rumors of some driver issues related to the 1070 having drops in some games.

So yes the initial answers are still wrong, immediately jumping to "you need to buy new stuff" without completely troubleshooting the problem is irresponsible and bad advice. Especially when there is proof out there that it should perform better than it is.

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

^ Agree actually. I sped-read the first line, but BIG fps drops probably shouldn't happen with the OC'd FX8.

However, It is fair to expect 60fps at decent settings and drops into the 40's. If the OP sees this as 'big' then the CPU is to blame (according to the chart I posted). FPS drops to 10fps indicate something else entirely.

iyzik · Aug 2, 2016

Rogue Leader :

Fair enough but I see no proof that it should perform better than it is, atleast in GTA. His FireStrike score looks pretty normal to me, his 1070 score is even a good amount higher than mine. And if I'm dipping to 40fps with an i5, regardless of if its because of bad game programming; then I wouldn't be surprised to see an FX dipping into the 30's. Especially cause it is probably bottlenecking the GPU a little bit, even if its not "a massive bottleneck".

ShadowRD · Aug 2, 2016

this is the cpu usage and clock speed @ stock playgin gta v

and this is with cpu overclock @ 4.9

both times fps drop from 60 to 45 to 32 going back to 40 and 55 to 60 again, it never gets stable with fps

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

OC helps obviously. But, I think its amixture of game and CPU. all benches online point to lows of 35-40 with the FX9xxx at 4.8 or whatever. So truth is, that's just what you will get with that game and your system. It would seem.

Rogue Leader · Aug 2, 2016

Sounds like its just GTA V as well to me. I would drop AA settings down as well. Most benchmarks of that game are done without AA at all.

How about the other games?

iyzik · Aug 2, 2016

Yeah GTA V just isn't optimized that well, even the strongest i7's still experience some fps dips. I dropped my MSAA to x2 and it helped a bit, VRAM is still at a whopping 5.5gb+ tho... I've never seen such a VRAM hog of a game.

burgessanthony · Aug 2, 2016

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review,20.html

152fps with a top end OC i7. Shows what the 1070 CAN do!!!

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