Is there much of a improvement in fps between 2133hz RAM and 3200hz RAM?
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ThatGuyWhoAsksALot
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Basically yeah , but its barely visible unless you use an FPS recorder which would show you a small increase in the fps , i'd say for about 2-5 fps increase (also know that more RAM is way better than more MHZ , if you have 2GB RAM with 3200mhz and wanna increase to 4GB RAM with 2133mhz , going with 4GB is way better and will show a big performance boost).
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Incorrect.
For gaming there will only be a 1% difference between those RAM speeds 99% of the time.
Stick to 2133MHz, or 2666MHz at most, as there will be a roughly 1% performance boost between 2133 and 2666, but virtually none between 2666 and 3200 for example.
The only real use for higher RAM frequency is when doing rendering or video editing, where it allows for faster render times and better performance.
In regards to the comment above, what you are saying is irrelevant, as you are talking about increasing RAM capacity, not speed.
You may get another one or two FPS, but unless you have the cash to blow or do video work, it is money better spent elsewhere.
For gaming there will only be a 1% difference between those RAM speeds 99% of the time.
Stick to 2133MHz, or 2666MHz at most, as there will be a roughly 1% performance boost between 2133 and 2666, but virtually none between 2666 and 3200 for example.
The only real use for higher RAM frequency is when doing rendering or video editing, where it allows for faster render times and better performance.
In regards to the comment above, what you are saying is irrelevant, as you are talking about increasing RAM capacity, not speed.
You may get another one or two FPS, but unless you have the cash to blow or do video work, it is money better spent elsewhere.
ThatGuyWhoAsksALot
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Chugalug_ :
No problem, everybody learns at some stage. 
There are some good tech channels like LinusTechTips, Pauls Hardware and Awesomesauce Network which explain these things, as well as some good guides here on Toms.
There are some good tech channels like LinusTechTips, Pauls Hardware and Awesomesauce Network which explain these things, as well as some good guides here on Toms.
Well that depends on what your using for gaming. In a video by JayzTwoCents. He did a video of how System Ram speed had a serious affect on performance with AMD APU's. But Yes generally the ram speed doesn't have to much of a affect.
Chugalug_
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Chugalug_ :
No problem, everybody learns at some stage.
There are some good tech channels like LinusTechTips, Pauls Hardware and Awesomesauce Network which explain these things, as well as some good guides here on Toms.
There are some good tech channels like LinusTechTips, Pauls Hardware and Awesomesauce Network which explain these things, as well as some good guides here on Toms.
Well that depends on what your using for gaming. In a video by JayzTwoCents. He did a video of how System Ram speed had a serious affect on performance with AMD APU's. But Yes generally the ram speed doesn't have to much of a affect.
Doesn't look like that's the case...
Is this the video you were talking about?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG8HoewIO_s
Chugalug_ :
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Chugalug_ :
No problem, everybody learns at some stage.
There are some good tech channels like LinusTechTips, Pauls Hardware and Awesomesauce Network which explain these things, as well as some good guides here on Toms.
There are some good tech channels like LinusTechTips, Pauls Hardware and Awesomesauce Network which explain these things, as well as some good guides here on Toms.
Well that depends on what your using for gaming. In a video by JayzTwoCents. He did a video of how System Ram speed had a serious affect on performance with AMD APU's. But Yes generally the ram speed doesn't have to much of a affect.
Doesn't look like that's the case...
Is this the video you were talking about?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG8HoewIO_s
This be the one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv57qDXpEPU
Chugalug_
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Ah I see.
Note however that this was with the integrated GPU used in AMD APUs which will scale better off system memory frequency due to being directly connected to the CPU itself which has a stronger connection to the memory controller due to being positioned closer and having a more direct form of communication through the socket pins as a pose to the PCIE slot which loops around on a circuit before reaching said memory controller.
This is likely an isolated thing, although it may also be present on intel iGPUs.
Just thought i'd clear this up.
Note however that this was with the integrated GPU used in AMD APUs which will scale better off system memory frequency due to being directly connected to the CPU itself which has a stronger connection to the memory controller due to being positioned closer and having a more direct form of communication through the socket pins as a pose to the PCIE slot which loops around on a circuit before reaching said memory controller.
This is likely an isolated thing, although it may also be present on intel iGPUs.
Just thought i'd clear this up.
Chugalug_
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According directly to the article you just posted: "Essentially, when the CPU is the bottleneck, faster RAM can provide an often dramatic increase in performance."
This means that unless your graphics card highly outweighs your CPU in terms of performance, there won't be any difference.
If you are running a 1070 and an i5 6500 you will see the same results as with any other game, as the Titan X has significantly more VRAM and CUDA cores than the 1070, although performance in non VRAM intensive games is essentially the same.
Won't be the case 90% of the time, although it is good to note.
Chugalug_ :
According directly to the article you just posted: "Essentially, when the CPU is the bottleneck, faster RAM can provide an often dramatic increase in performance."
Won't be the case 90% of the time, although it is good to note.
is important for people with High end GPU .. I guess people with GTX 1080 will benefit alot from faster RAM
According to this Article ,
http://wccftech.com/fallout-4-performance-heavily-influenced-by-ram-speed-according-to-report/
you will get huge improvement in Fallout 4 game ( from DDR3 1600 to DDR3 2400 gave 22%).
But you will need a high end card like the GTX 1070/1080 ... (they used old Titan X which is same speed of GTX 1070 today)
Chugalug_
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Please ignore Samer, this is only the case when the CPU is the bottleneck, meaning unless you're running a beast of a graphics card with a CPU that is bottlenecked by the graphics card itself, there will only be a 1% performance increase, which essentially follows suite with other titles.
Even if this was the case and your CPU was a bottleneck, it is EXCLUSIVELY in Fallout 4, so not worth the money either way.
Please read above where I mentioned the reasoning behind this.
Why ignore me ? I said old Titan X or better that is 1070 or 1080 ... will give you those results , and GTX 1070 is not a dream , ALOT CAN BUY THEM
and you will have 100% that result if you have one of those cards , because they measured the AVERAGE FPS and the MIN and both increased . When you measure the Average , this means not MAX fps .. but Average of the fps while you are playing .. and it increased 22% , and the MIN increased as well.
and I said it is in Fall out 4 , so why ignore me ? What did I say wrong ? to be ignored ?
did I claim other games are the same ?
I am just showing him things are changing .
Have a nice day .
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The reason I say what i've said is that the Titan X has nearly twice as much VRAM as the 1070, and this scales in terms of performance as a result.
These differences would be seen with an i5 and 1080, but not with the 1070.
Largely different scenario. Additionally, since that post was made 9 months ago, it is safe to say that given the 1070 is a relatively new card, that it will not be as well optimized as the Titan X which has been around for much longer.
The little details make a big difference.
I pulled you up on it because it was a bit exaggerated, and was worded like a sales pitch! ^.^
The 1070 will not see the same RAM frequency scaling as the Titan X, and i'm trying to notify you of this, so sorry if I came off as rude.
Note that this is an extreme case, as not many people will run something like a 1080 with an i5, with most opting to go for an i7 due to the increased power.
I said that it is a good thing to note, but it will likely not be something to consider when buying RAM, especially due to the fact that it is only present in one game at the moment.
Hopefully RAM does begin to scale like this with balanced hardware in the future as well though!
Chugalug_ :
The reason I say what i've said is that the Titan X has nearly twice as much VRAM as the 1070, and this scales in terms of performance as a result.
These differences would be seen with an i5 and 1080, but not with the 1070.
Largely different scenario. Additionally, since that post was made 9 months ago, it is safe to say that given the 1070 is a relatively new card, that it will not be as well optimized as the Titan X which has been around for much longer.
The little details make a big difference.
I pulled you up on it because it was a bit exaggerated, and was worded like a sales pitch! ^.^
The 1070 will not see the same RAM frequency scaling as the Titan X, and i'm trying to notify you of this, so sorry if I came off as rude.
Note that this is an extreme case, as not many people will run something like a 1080 with an i5, with most opting to go for an i7 due to the increased power.
I said that it is a good thing to note, but it will likely not be something to consider when buying RAM, especially due to the fact that it is only present in one game at the moment.
Hopefully RAM does begin to scale like this with balanced hardware in the future as well though!
more RAM is for resolution ...and 8G is more than enogh , the GTX 1070 is the same speed of the tested old Titan X, the GTX 1080 is more than old Titan X .. Benchmarks say so .. expect tthe GTX 1070 if less to give like 18% more instead of 22% still a big thingy.
as for the i7 thing maybe yes maybe no .. need to test it out , especially with the 1080 which is much faster than the Titan X ... could bottleneck the i7 as well
any ways , nice talking with you
Tradesman1
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It all depends on the individual game, developers are utilizing faster and mor DRAM more and more in game development so faster can show marked improvements
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