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So I will be using this for gaming. I thought with 2000 dollars might as well get me a six core, under the assumption future games will be able to use more than four cores, otherwise I would have gone with a 6700k.

I'm on the fence about it though, because I don't know if the socket type and chipset will be used anymore in the future. That could limit my ability to upgrade a cpu in the future and would like to hear some thoughts on that specifically.

Not sure about the cooler. I want liquid but I don't know much about liquid cooling. Additional case fans?

Thanks!!! in advance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($419.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($235.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($143.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card ($654.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1971.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-04 19:12 EDT-0400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($251.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($143.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card ($654.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1948.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-04 21:04 EDT-0400
 
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Not necessarily! :)
The 5820k currently only goes for about $20 more than the 6700k, and offers more or less the same performance, especially if overclocking
I've put in 32GB of RAM because I found a good deal on pricing, just to complete it as an editing PC, adding resale value to it.
Added a 1TB HDD for extra storage, meaning you can also add in your old hard drive with your steam library etc.
You'll want to install windows on the SSD, preferably with the HDDs not plugged in just to ensure no windows files sneak their way over. It happens. :)
Power supply is good as well.
I've changed out the motherboard for a better one, as MSI motherboards aren't great compared to other brands.
Feel free to spend that spare 60 bucks on a 2TB WD...
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I personally would still stay with the 6700K as you will see a better gaming performance with it's higher clocks. Everything else looks pretty good though.

I have to say, if you are insisting upon going liquid and you're at this price point, why not go whole hog? https://www.ekwb.com/solutions/kits/
 
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Well, I'll have to look into these custom loops later, I find them...interesting, interesting indeed. But not today, maybe if i choose to sli in the future. How do water blocks on GPUs do in sli? And, what is your opinion on games using more CPU cores in the future? Or will the higher clocks of the 6700k, always put it at better performance than the 6800k regardless.

 
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A few things.
The 6800k performs the same as the 5820k, which sells for $70 less usually.
I've adjusted a few things in your build such as the SSD.
You typically only need a 250GB SSD to store OS and a few games/programs.
Will you be transferring over hard drives? Or do you need them included?
Any reason you need higher frequency RAM?
Will you be editing or doing any video work?
Is the 850w PSU for SLI in the future?
 
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So, maybe stick with the 6700k then...
I have an old 1TB drive in the computer I am typing on now I can use if I need the extra storage and my steam library is pretty big. I have 24 games installed but 6 are indie games.
As far as the RAM, not that I'm aware of. Kinda just thought higher is better.
No video work but, I am pursuing a degree in computer science hoping to become a programmer. Not sure what I would need for that. I assume for collage programs not much...
For the PSU yeah I'm planning on maybe getting another one instead of upgrading to the next series GPU or what not.

 
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Not necessarily! :)
The 5820k currently only goes for about $20 more than the 6700k, and offers more or less the same performance, especially if overclocking
I've put in 32GB of RAM because I found a good deal on pricing, just to complete it as an editing PC, adding resale value to it.
Added a 1TB HDD for extra storage, meaning you can also add in your old hard drive with your steam library etc.
You'll want to install windows on the SSD, preferably with the HDDs not plugged in just to ensure no windows files sneak their way over. It happens. :)
Power supply is good as well.
I've changed out the motherboard for a better one, as MSI motherboards aren't great compared to other brands.
Feel free to spend that spare 60 bucks on a 2TB WD Black hard drive if you feel you need extra storage, but you should be perfectly fine.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z9M9Gf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z9M9Gf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X99X Killer ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($226.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card ($654.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1942.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-04 19:53 EDT-0400
 
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You make some good points. I think I want to get away from the old brodwell/haswell architecture. (That ddr4 quad channel tho lol). I'm pretty adamant on the 500gb ssd. I feel as though another investment in a hdd will just be a waste. 1tb ssd's will become way cheaper in the next year or two. I added a secondary skylake build up top based around this build though. (no msi board). What do you think of it.
 
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I think I will most likely stay with skylake. Unless there is a better reason not to, which I have read the i7-6700k beats out most CPUs in most games due to its higher clock.
 
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It is not that substantial, only snall margins, and they are more or less the same overclocked to the same frequency, with the 6700k beating the 5820k by a little bit. Note however that it is definitely a worthwhile investment, as DX 12 will have better support for hyperthreaded applications, and therefore will utilize stuff like the 5820k to a larger extent.
This means that the extra 2 hyperthreaded cores will provide extra stability in the short term, as well as giving significant gains in performance over the 6700k as DX12 matures. It is up to you in the end, but I think that for the extra little bit of cash, and the performance and core increases you get, it's a no brainer. ;)
 
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Just for info I went with this but went with a single 500gig 850 evo and swaped out the mobo with a msi gaming pro carbon x99 mobo. I don't think msi mobo's are as bad as they used to be.
 
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Yeah, the Carbon Gaming Pro is one of their better ones.
My reasoning behind the motherboard I chose was that it offered more headers for the price, and was on sale, but don't worry. As long as it supports your needs in terms of connections and looks good in your eyes, you're fine.
Enjoy! ;)
PM me if you have any issues, concerns or questions.
 
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