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Thanks very bambiboom for your contribution to this topic over the years. Could you recommend a build for $7000-8000 range? I'm looking at building a machine for integrated circuit simulation. Very CPU intensive, requires large amount of memory, can benefit from multiple cores, but cannot be GPU accelerated.
Thanks![/quotemsg]
lxgliu,
Follows is a system based on a pair of Xeon E5-2640 v4 10-core 2.4 / 3.4GHz processors / 256GB of DDR4 -2133 ECC RAM / Quadro M2000 4GB GPU, Samsung 950 M.2 512GB NVMe / and 3X Seagate Es.3 4TB HDD's mounted in a Supermicro SuperWorkstation SYS-7038A-I
The E5-2640 v4 10-core CPU is a good balance of core count and clock speed. The Passmark CPU mark for a pair is 22062 and the single-thread mark is 1860 which would support complex 3D modeling.
The Quadro M2000.(4GB) is a newly released GPU, with performance near that of the Quadro K4200 (Passmark average 3D= 4262.) Again, sufficient for advanced graphic design, e.g. IC block diagrams.
The Supermicro SuperWorkstation provides a case, motherboard, CPU coolers, and 900W power supply. This platform allows a simplified system assembly as it's only necessary to mount Processors, CPU coolers, RAM.
The SYS-7038A-I includes the Supermicro X10 DAi motherboard, and extraordinarily good one for this use., with16RAM slots and 3X PCie x 16 slots. If future software benefits from GPU acceleration, a Tesla GPU coprocessor could be added.
Drive 1 is a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB NVMe M/2 drive, currently ione of the fastest in the World. In this use, it's suggested to forgo a scratch disk and have the OS, Programs and current projects on the principal drive.
Storage /archiving, libraries are kept on 3X Seagate Costellation ES.3 Enterprise drives which have long endurance and 128MB instead o the usual 64MB. These run off an LSI MR9361 RAID controller which is rated for 12GB/s.
BambiBoom CalcuCannon SPICErackanomicADSimurific iCWonk TurboSignature Extreme Signature 9900 ®©$$™®£™©™ _ 8.4.16
Case /Motherboard /Power Supply/ CPU Coolers : Supermicro SuperWorkstation SYS-7038A-I Dual LGA2011-3 / Supermicro X10DA / 900W Mid-Tower Workstation Barebone System (Black) > $660
__ http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/tower/7038/SYS-7038A-i.cfm
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SY-7038AI
CPU: (2) Intel Xeon E5-2640 v4 Ten-Core Broadwell Processor 2.4 / 3.4GHz 8.0GT/s 25MB LGA 2011-3 CPU, OEM > $1,960 ($980 each)
__ http://ark.intel.com/products/92984/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2640-v4-25M-Cache-2_40-GHz
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E5-2640V4
Memory: 256GB (16x 16GB) Samsung DDR4-2133 16GB/2Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory > $1,280 ($80 ea.)
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D42116G4S
GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro M2000 4GB GDDR5 DVI/4DisplayPorts PCI-Express Video Card > 479
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-M2000
RAID Controller : Broadcom LSI MegaRAID SAS 9361-4i 4-Port 12Gb/s SAS+SATA PCI-Express 3.0 Low Profile RAID Controller, Single> $401
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=LSI93614IS
Disk 1: Samsung 950 PRO Series 512GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive, Retail (V-NAND) > $318.
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MZ-V5P512B
M.2 to PCIe Adapter: DT 120 - M.2 PCIe to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter (support M.2 PCIe 2280, 2260, 2242) > $20
__ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8RU39C6054&cm_re=m.2_to_pcie_adapter-_-9SIA8RU39C6054-_-Product
Disks 2, 3, and 4: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive > $732 ($244 ea.) (RAID 5)
__ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W021H6289&cm_re=Seagate_Constellation_ES.3-_-22-178-307-_-Product
Optical Disk: SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE - OEM > $18
__ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit English (1-Pack), OEM > $139.
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MSFQC08289
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TOTAL = $6,007
The next step up in processors would add about $2,000 to the cost and I feel that 10=cores at this clock speed is sufficient. It's possible to consider a couple of E5-2600 v3 CPU's if the software will be more optimized.
Some Questions:
What software are you using?
What are typical file sizes?
What are typical running times? On what system?
What is your situation with monitors?
___ Performance should be very good. This concept is deliberately under budget so there is overhead to focus performance. If you have a special requirement in the form and can identify the parameter and expectation, it's always possible to optimize in that direction.
As the Xeon E5-2640 v4 is very newly released, there are only 6 systems tested on Passmark. The three systems having dual processors had CPU scores of 25080 on an ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS, 22791 on a Hewlett-Packard 21291, and 21453 on another ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS. The Supermicro Z10DAi system with one CPU had a mark of 16014 and the ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS with a single CPU scored 15776. The top system rating is 6042: 2X E5-2640 v4 / ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS / 256GB / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB / GTX 980 Ti. The single CPU system using the Supermicro X10DAi was rated 5177 with single CPU / 128GB / GTX 1070 / SanDisk SSDDXPS480G
Cheers,
BambiBoom
HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]
Thanks very bambiboom for your contribution to this topic over the years. Could you recommend a build for $7000-8000 range? I'm looking at building a machine for integrated circuit simulation. Very CPU intensive, requires large amount of memory, can benefit from multiple cores, but cannot be GPU accelerated.
Thanks![/quotemsg]
lxgliu,
Follows is a system based on a pair of Xeon E5-2640 v4 10-core 2.4 / 3.4GHz processors / 256GB of DDR4 -2133 ECC RAM / Quadro M2000 4GB GPU, Samsung 950 M.2 512GB NVMe / and 3X Seagate Es.3 4TB HDD's mounted in a Supermicro SuperWorkstation SYS-7038A-I
The E5-2640 v4 10-core CPU is a good balance of core count and clock speed. The Passmark CPU mark for a pair is 22062 and the single-thread mark is 1860 which would support complex 3D modeling.
The Quadro M2000.(4GB) is a newly released GPU, with performance near that of the Quadro K4200 (Passmark average 3D= 4262.) Again, sufficient for advanced graphic design, e.g. IC block diagrams.
The Supermicro SuperWorkstation provides a case, motherboard, CPU coolers, and 900W power supply. This platform allows a simplified system assembly as it's only necessary to mount Processors, CPU coolers, RAM.
The SYS-7038A-I includes the Supermicro X10 DAi motherboard, and extraordinarily good one for this use., with16RAM slots and 3X PCie x 16 slots. If future software benefits from GPU acceleration, a Tesla GPU coprocessor could be added.
Drive 1 is a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB NVMe M/2 drive, currently ione of the fastest in the World. In this use, it's suggested to forgo a scratch disk and have the OS, Programs and current projects on the principal drive.
Storage /archiving, libraries are kept on 3X Seagate Costellation ES.3 Enterprise drives which have long endurance and 128MB instead o the usual 64MB. These run off an LSI MR9361 RAID controller which is rated for 12GB/s.
BambiBoom CalcuCannon SPICErackanomicADSimurific iCWonk TurboSignature Extreme Signature 9900 ®©$$™®£™©™ _ 8.4.16
Case /Motherboard /Power Supply/ CPU Coolers : Supermicro SuperWorkstation SYS-7038A-I Dual LGA2011-3 / Supermicro X10DA / 900W Mid-Tower Workstation Barebone System (Black) > $660
__ http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/tower/7038/SYS-7038A-i.cfm
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SY-7038AI
CPU: (2) Intel Xeon E5-2640 v4 Ten-Core Broadwell Processor 2.4 / 3.4GHz 8.0GT/s 25MB LGA 2011-3 CPU, OEM > $1,960 ($980 each)
__ http://ark.intel.com/products/92984/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2640-v4-25M-Cache-2_40-GHz
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E5-2640V4
Memory: 256GB (16x 16GB) Samsung DDR4-2133 16GB/2Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory > $1,280 ($80 ea.)
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D42116G4S
GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro M2000 4GB GDDR5 DVI/4DisplayPorts PCI-Express Video Card > 479
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-M2000
RAID Controller : Broadcom LSI MegaRAID SAS 9361-4i 4-Port 12Gb/s SAS+SATA PCI-Express 3.0 Low Profile RAID Controller, Single> $401
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=LSI93614IS
Disk 1: Samsung 950 PRO Series 512GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive, Retail (V-NAND) > $318.
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MZ-V5P512B
M.2 to PCIe Adapter: DT 120 - M.2 PCIe to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter (support M.2 PCIe 2280, 2260, 2242) > $20
__ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8RU39C6054&cm_re=m.2_to_pcie_adapter-_-9SIA8RU39C6054-_-Product
Disks 2, 3, and 4: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive > $732 ($244 ea.) (RAID 5)
__ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W021H6289&cm_re=Seagate_Constellation_ES.3-_-22-178-307-_-Product
Optical Disk: SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE - OEM > $18
__ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit English (1-Pack), OEM > $139.
__ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MSFQC08289
_______________________________________
TOTAL = $6,007
The next step up in processors would add about $2,000 to the cost and I feel that 10=cores at this clock speed is sufficient. It's possible to consider a couple of E5-2600 v3 CPU's if the software will be more optimized.
Some Questions:
What software are you using?
What are typical file sizes?
What are typical running times? On what system?
What is your situation with monitors?
___ Performance should be very good. This concept is deliberately under budget so there is overhead to focus performance. If you have a special requirement in the form and can identify the parameter and expectation, it's always possible to optimize in that direction.
As the Xeon E5-2640 v4 is very newly released, there are only 6 systems tested on Passmark. The three systems having dual processors had CPU scores of 25080 on an ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS, 22791 on a Hewlett-Packard 21291, and 21453 on another ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS. The Supermicro Z10DAi system with one CPU had a mark of 16014 and the ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS with a single CPU scored 15776. The top system rating is 6042: 2X E5-2640 v4 / ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS / 256GB / Samsung 950 Pro 256GB / GTX 980 Ti. The single CPU system using the Supermicro X10DAi was rated 5177 with single CPU / 128GB / GTX 1070 / SanDisk SSDDXPS480G
Cheers,
BambiBoom
HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]
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