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Hi All

I moved from Italy in the UK and i would like to buy a new gaming PC. I sold my old computer so unfortunately I cannot use any of the previous hardware.

Speaking about budget I have not specific restrictions. I do not like to waste money especially in something which is just cosmetic but still i want to buy a good gaming computer.

I do not have a monitor here so i will need to buy it as well. I would like to not use more than £ 200 and max 27 inch.

About graphic card I am undecided between the 1080 and the 1070 so any suggestion about which on the 2 and which brand will be really appreciated.

About CPU my choice is the intel i7 6700k.

About HDDs, I would like to have a 256 ssd and another 2TB hard disk.

About RAM, power supply, motherboard and case (which i prefer not too big) I really do not have any specific idea so any suggestion would be great! I would like to buy something good and reliable, not extreme! :)

About the OS I have a windows 8 (not OEM) license previously upgraded to Windows 10 so theoretically i will not need to buy a new one.

Last thing, can you suggest me some good online shop where to buy these components? In Italy i know were to buy.. here i just know Amazon... I am capable of assembling them by myself.

Thanks in advance for your help! :)

If you need any other information please ask

Marco

 
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I've changed out the parts for high quality components that are still great value.
Changed out the power supply for something that is better priced and from a better quality OEM, swapped out the 212 Evo for the Be Quiet! Pure Rock which is the same price and has much better performance while creating less noise, gotten a nicer case in the S340 Black/Red, a better quality motherboard with a red theme, better quality RAM for the price and a faster SSD.

The graphics card is also faster out of the box, will run cooler and quieter, and is great value for the price.

Note that the cooler i've put in also allows you to get a very nice overclock out of the 6700k, is this something you would consider in future to get more performance out of...
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basroil

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For that system, DDR4 2400 or 2666MHz in 2x8GB, and case is up to you, a 100R silent is very cheap and discreet.

PSU, go for a EVGA G2 or Corsair RMx 650W unit (only need 550W, but just in case you want to push the overclock later)

Here's an example:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£296.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£97.74 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£60.67 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£57.78 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.58 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£398.72 @ BT Shop)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£52.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£85.44 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1121.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-08 12:45 BST+0100
 
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xKaniz

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With the RAM, I'd go with DDR4 3600Mhz in 2x8GB.
To enable this high frequency, you're going to have to enable Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) in your BIOS.

For the case a Mid-Tower one is really good in terms of price. The case itself doesn't need to be any bigger.

PSU, definitely go for a Platinum 80+ 850 W from EVGA to get very good price and efficiency, and having 850W, you won't have any borderlines.

In terms of parts, I picked the FASTEST versions of the products.

I will link everything to Amazon, since you know this website, so you can order it :)

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0Ghz Quad-Core Processor (£295.00) (http://amzn.to/2aUTVPZ)
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (£119.99) (http://amzn.to/2aUUJV9)
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VIII Hero Motherboard (£187.99) (http://amzn.to/2b7q5ZO)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 MHz Desktop Memory (£107.19) (http://amzn.to/2aG1iQe)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO NVMe M.2 256GB Solid State Drive (£149.99) (http://amzn.to/2bdWhdr)
Storage: Seagate Desktop 3.5 inch 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB 6GB/S Internal SATA Drive (£58.00) (http://amzn.to/2b83H4R)
Video Card: ASUS STRIX GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5X (£469.98) (http://amzn.to/2aLp8rx)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Case for PC - White (£79.99) (http://amzn.to/2aGfzcJ)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNova P2 850 W Platinum Fully Modular Power Supply (£123.21) (http://amzn.to/2aFWF4t)
Total: £1591.44

Have Fun! :D
 
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Chugalug_

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May I ask you why on earth you've gone with such high frequency RAM, an overkill PSU that isn't even required if he goes 1070 SLI, an overpriced motherboard and an overkill SSD?
Waste of money imo....
You can get the same gaming performance for significantly cheaper.
Also @Basroil, you've selected the MSI 1070 Aero which suffers from heavy thermal throttling, and sounds like a jet engine.
 
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xKaniz

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High frequency RAM, because it will boost it significantly and he wants a Gaming PC, so it will be amazing when combined.
PSU 850 W, because then the GPU will have a borderline. You always need some watts on backup :)
 
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I've changed out the parts for high quality components that are still great value.
Changed out the power supply for something that is better priced and from a better quality OEM, swapped out the 212 Evo for the Be Quiet! Pure Rock which is the same price and has much better performance while creating less noise, gotten a nicer case in the S340 Black/Red, a better quality motherboard with a red theme, better quality RAM for the price and a faster SSD.

The graphics card is also faster out of the box, will run cooler and quieter, and is great value for the price.

Note that the cooler i've put in also allows you to get a very nice overclock out of the 6700k, is this something you would consider in future to get more performance out of your rig?
I've left in a 750w power supply so you have the option of running two 1070s later down the line if you want more performance.
With any build in this budget range, you want a 144hz monitor.
Optimally you want a 1440p 144hz one, so two 1070s is a viable option in the future, but i've left two options available to you.
1. 1080p 144hz, which won't see much use past a single 1070 and has relatively dull colours compared to an IPS.
2. 1440p, 144hz , IPS, G-Sync which will be futureproof for years to come and has a significantly clearer image compared to 1080p as well as vibrant colours and good contrast.
I highly recommend going with the second option due to the future-proofing it gives you, and the better gaming experience with your current card regardless.
Here is the parts list, as well as a link to the monitors underneath it.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8gVdm8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8gVdm8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£296.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£29.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£124.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£58.13 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£58.30 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.58 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (£419.66 @ More Computers)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX TS 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£80.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1179.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-08 13:49 BST+0100

A link to the monitors I mentioned: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MKKRt6
 
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I would say within £1800 including monitor.

About graphic card all of you guys recommend me the 1070 rather than the 1080?

Thx all again for your help :)


 
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xKaniz

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Yup, the 1080 is way too overpriced and not really needed for games right now as it's an overkill for 1080, 1440p :)

 
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Higher frequency RAM has little to no impact on the gaming performance, as it is not fully utilized in current applications.
2133-2666 usually gives a 1-3 frame boost to FPS in some games, but above that it is useless.
It is most effective in editing rigs, where applications such as Adobe Premier take advantage of RAM frequency and higher core counts to output video at a higher rate.
I'll try and find a good video example that I normally use....
The 1070 requires a recommended (not minimum) power supply wattage of 500w.
A 520w Seasonic S12II will get the job done fine for much cheaper, and a 750w will be able to SLI 1070s no problem.

 
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xKaniz

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This high frequency of RAM, and overall the whole rig isn't gonna be used for 2 years. It will be utilized in future applications, you'll see.

And, HELL NO.
If a 520w PSU will handle a GTX 1070, then a 750w will handle in SLI?!
Are you crazy? Even a 520w won't make the job done for the 1070. 850 W for future years too, as I said you need to have backup watts, or else it will end up in a borderline and your GPU will be smoked :)
Are you not paying attention, or trying to earn Best Solution's?
I'm here to help and share knowledge.
 
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There is something called overvoltage protection (ovp) which allows power supplies to work at wattages above their rated speed before they shutdown. This is present on all power supplies.
Nobody said anything about the rig not being used for two years.....so I'm not quite sure what you're on about in that regard.
Even so, SLI 1070s won't even DRAW 750w let alone over.
Just to prove my point, here is evidence of this in the worst case scenario, with a 6950X overclocked: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1070_2_way_sli_review,4.html
I also am here to help and share knowledge, and I have stated my reasoning clearly and concisely without being rude, and I know my facts. :p
"Are you not paying attention, or trying to earn Best Solution's?" No need to get all pissy at me! :(

Also the power supply typically has to be extremely low quality in order to overvolt any components, this is typically caused by high 12v rail ripple and poor voltage control. This is not a problem on the G2 unit, as it is made by an OEM called Superflower who are very good quality in terms of products. The power supply would simply shut down before any damage was done to the system if it was overvolted.
If you are unsure about anything else i'd be happy to teach you! :D

Edit: Here are two other threads regarding 1070 power draw:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3059759/500w-psu-gtx-1070.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3052279/550w-psu-gtx-1070.html
Also Nvidia's official statement regarding the specs:
Maximum GPU Temperature (in C): 94
Graphics Card Power (W): 150 W
Recommended System Power (W): 500 W
Supplementary Power Connectors: 1x 8-Pin
 
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xKaniz

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Ok, sorry for peing "pissy" at you XD
But the thing is you need to have some wattage backup, especially when playing AAA titles, so your PSU doesn't power off every 5 minutes :lol:
 
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Xkaniz I'm concerned you don't know what you are talking about. Recommending someone overspend on a ridiculous PSU is one thing, then arguing against logic is quire another.

550w is fine for that system. A quality unit will deliver sufficient amps on the 12v rail with reserve. Components don't magically increase in wattage requirements over time.

And actually,the trend is more power with less power draw for gpus as evidenced by the 480 and 1070/1080 recently.
 
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xKaniz

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I assume you're a kid? Because what you said didn't make any sense...
 
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1. Being a kid has nothing to do with knowledge of parts, of which he has more of over yourself, so I wouldn't insult him even if he is a kid if I were you, you could learn a thing or two.
2. He makes perfect sense, read the links I posted, the statistics are there, you were wrong, accept that and learn from it.
3. That patronizing language is a perfect example of how now to talk to people on these forums.
Be civil, and accept when you are wrong rather than stubbornly arguing with people.
If you are going to debate a point, back it up with statistics, bickering will get a conversation nowhere.
Remember this is to help the original poster, not for personal gain, cut it out.
We want to help teach you about how different parts work, don't push us back for trying. :(
 
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xKaniz

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I'm talking of his grammar...
Overall, I'm more of a GPU person :)
 
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xKaniz

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I'm Polish, so I guess my English isn't the best either :p
 
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Xkaniz. Appreciate English isn't your first language, but there is nothing wrong with my grammar.

I am 28, been building PCs for 15 years. I don't know everything and learn lots on here every day. Hopefully help people as well.

Your attitude is awful. This is a place to help and advise l
 
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xKaniz

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Well, I wan't to help too and don't call my attitude awful, since your's isn't either.
I'm arguing ? :lol:
 
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xKaniz

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Well ok but, I was always told that backup wattage is always needed >.>
Anyways, sry :)
 
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Thanks, u2! :D

 
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