First Build, would like comments and suggestions on parts and cost cutting.

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So I would like to build my first PC based on the parts in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA-rH8rCmZs

I'm looking to play most current games at least at 1080p 60 fps on my 4K television which has a 60hz refresh rate (non competitive), while possibly dabbling in 1440p (although not the biggest priority). I live in Germany so thats why parts are in euros.

Here are the individual parts:

http://geizhals.de/intel-core-i5-6500-bx80662i56500-a1290386.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/ekl-alpenfoehn-ben-nevis-84000000119-a1211188.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/asrock-b150m-pro4-90-mxgzm0-a0uayz-a1318331.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-480-4g-d5-11260-02-20g-a1477762.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/patriot-viper-4-series-dimm-kit-16gb-pv416g240c5k-a1343400.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/toshiba-dt01aca-1tb-dt01aca100-a799537.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/silicon-power-slim-s70-240gb-sp240gbss3s70s25-a962133.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/super-flower-golden-green-hx-450w-atx-2-3-sf-450p14xe-hx-a1039307.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
http://geizhals.de/bitfenix-nova-schwarz-mit-sichtfenster-bfx-nov-100-kkwsk-rp-a1336825.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

So a few things, first I would like to replace the 480 with a GTX 1070 (possibly a 1060).
Second, I would like to hold off on the 16gb ram and go with 8gb, as well as cut the SSD until a later date in order to cut some costs to compensate for the 1070.
Third, I am planning on buying the video card from Saturn in person, with a VAT form which would reduce the cost by 19 percent.
Fourth, I would really like to overclock.

Here are the prices from Saturn.de that I've calculated to be 388 euros after VAT form reduction, although being new to computers I really have no idea what the differences are between brands or if it makes a huge difference.
http://www.saturn.de/de/search.html?storeId=48352&langId=-3&searchProfile=onlineshop&channel=sedede&searchParams=&path=&query=gtx+1070


So my questions are,
1. Would you recommend a GTX 1060/1070 over a 480 in the first place?
2. Would cutting the SSD from the build make a huge difference in performance until I decide to purchase one later?
3. Would you recommend any parts for this build that could help me to cut costs further?
4. From what I understand the 6500 cant be overclocked? in this case would a 6600(k) be able to do the job, and would it be worth it to overclock on this build?

My overall goal is to keep this build around 800 euros but I am willing to compromise spending if it would mean a major difference in the longevity of the system, and extra bang per buck.

Thank you for your time!
 
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On a dual channel system you always want two sticks instead of 1. And here's the same build with the 1070:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€203.60 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H110-PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€77.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€47.14 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western...
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1. The truth is that none of those cards are going to play at 4k without having to turn some settings down or reduce the resolution to 1440p/1080p, but by far the best choice is the gtx 1070.

2. Cutting the ssd will only affect boot times and load times (it has no effect on fps), so if you are fine with waiting longer for a game to load then you will be ok.

3. There is a great website called pcpartpicker that helps organize your build and find the best prices on components. It also makes it easier to save and share your build information on forums like this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/

4. Yes, the i5 6500 is not overclockable (well technically it is but you have to mess around with the base clock and I really do not recommend that.) The 6600k is an unlocked processor and can be overclocked, however, the motherboard you have listed does not support overclocking, for that you would need to buy a z170 chipset motherboard which are usually $100-$150 (~€90-€135 not including vat). You will also want a more powerful power supply especially if you plan on doing any overclocking.
 
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So this is what Ive scraped up so far:
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/McJwzM

For the sake of the budget I've decided to ditch the 6600k and overclocking, in order to have a 6500 with a non overclocking motherboard to go with it.
I should have also mentioned that I don't actually expect to game in 4k, I just have a TV that can go over 1080p. I feel as though the build still needs some work as I'm not sure which brands are the best here.
 
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You could probably also save a little more money in ram.

You don't need DDR4-2400, since b150 only supports up to DDR4-2133

I think if you wanted use faster RAM you would need a MoBo with Z170 chipset
 
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I am also building a PC right now and I have a similar build to yours.

I've chosen to use an h170 mobo with core i5-6500 and RX 480 8gb and ram at ddr4-2133

IMO the difference between 2133 and 2400 won't be worth the difference in money
 
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For a locked CPU and you don't plan on overclocking there really isn't a need to buy any aftermarket cooler. The one that comes with the CPU is sufficient enough.

I've chosen to use an h170 mobo with core i5-6500 and RX 480 8gb and ram at ddr4-2133

IMO the difference between 2133 and 2400 won't be worth the difference in money
Click to expand...

The difference in RAM speeds only comes into play once you enable XMP. If you're not enabling XMP then it doesn't really matter.
 
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Yeah there's a lot of junk PSUs out there. The Corsair CX that you chose isn't the best but it isn't the worst either. I made a few changes:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€203.60 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H110-PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€77.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€47.14 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.44 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card (€322.80 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€63.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €945.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-12 03:37 CEST+0200
 
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Is there any way we could keep the 1070 in the build? Also is there a big difference with the 2 4gb sticks you chose instead of 1 8gb?
 
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On a dual channel system you always want two sticks instead of 1. And here's the same build with the 1070:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€203.60 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H110-PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€77.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€47.14 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.44 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (€468.25 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€63.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1090.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-12 03:49 CEST+0200
 
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It looks nice! a little over the initial budget but for the parts I think its worth it and the system will have good longevity.
 
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That was the only full size H110 motherboard I could find. Most H110 motherboards are either mini ITX or micro ATX, there's very few full size ones that have that chipset. H110 is also a step above B150 in that it supports DDR4 where most B150 support older DDR3. When buying new systems I always say get the newest hardware that you can afford, while you can't make a build "future proof", you can take steps to ensure system longevity, that is my philosophy.
 
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I just ordered the build you suggested today. Thanks very much for your help I can't wait to start putting it together! :)

Is there anything else you can recommend to a first time builder when the parts arrive?
 
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