Will teaming improve live streaming quality??

Disneyreject · Aug 15, 2016

Title says it all, trying to figure out if a teaming router and hooking up 2 ethernets from it to my motherboard will improve my live streaming quality.

Also, if yes; any suggestions for a good teaming router would be appreciated.

Thanks for any help!

COLGeek · Aug 15, 2016

No. Your streaming ability is likely constrained by your ISP upstream speed, more than the router you are using. What is your rated downstream/upstream level of service provided by your ISP?

Hlsgsz · Aug 15, 2016

NO. Your most likely limit is your CPU. LAN speed is way above and beyond from both what your CPU can encode and you ISP lets you upload.

Disneyreject · Aug 15, 2016

COLGeek :

I am not home at the monent. So I can't check, but I know my upload is around 10-12. I am moving in the next few months though and am going to looks for a provider with a bit faster speeds.

COLGeek · Aug 15, 2016

You should also look at your rig's CPU and memory. Streaming can put a huge load on these components. What make/model CPU, motherboard, and memory are you using?

Disneyreject · Aug 15, 2016

Hlsgsz :

So my internet is not my problem? My PC is pretty high end.

Disneyreject · Aug 15, 2016

COLGeek :

Currently an 5th gen i5 and an Asrock Extreme4 with a recording card. Upgrading to a skylake i7 and Asus Z170-Delux.

When I stream games like overwatch my stream is super choppy. But the gameplay is smooth.

COLGeek · Aug 15, 2016

It could be your ISP level of service. It could also be your PC. When you get home, check your ISP (speedtest.net) and update us on your hardware config.

Hlsgsz · Aug 15, 2016

Disneyreject :

10MB is plenty. Go for the i7 and, in the meantime, go for 720p instead of 1080p. depending on teh game, an i5 may struggle with 1080p60Hz.

Disneyreject · Aug 17, 2016

COLGeek :

Sorry it took so long, ended up getting super busy for the last 2 days.
So here are my speedtest results.

Ping: 19ms
Down: 172.63 Mbps
Up: 10.69 Mbps

I have no idea how this compares to others or how it might impact my stream quality.

My current system specs are going to be irrelavent soon since I am rebuilding, but here they are.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
Mobo: Asrock Extreme4
RAM: GeIL Super Luce 16GB
GPU: Evga GTX 980
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750
Sound Card: Sounblaster Z
Recording Card: Live Gamer HD

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My new specs will be.
CPU: I7-6700K 4.00 GHz
Mobo: ASUS Z170-DELUXE
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB
GPU: Evga GTX 1080 FTW
PSU: ----- *
Sound Card: Sounblaster Z
Recording Card: Live Gamer HD

* PSU is undecided. I was going to get a 850w psu but I want to get a second 1080 and overvlock both of them as well as overclock my CPU. On websites that calculate power needs they say that I will need roughly 890 watts, which means I would need a 1000W power supply. However people on here said I should be fine. VERY confused about this.
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So I guess really I just need to know if my net is holding me back or if it's just the old i5.

-Side note. If I did get a teaming router and plugged 2 ethernet cables into my rig, what would I gain? Or would I actually gain nothing?

Hlsgsz · Aug 17, 2016

Disneyreject :

COLGeek :

Sorry it took so long, ended up getting super busy for the last 2 days.
So here are my speedtest results.

Ping: 19ms
Down: 172.63 Mbps
Up: 10.69 Mbps

I have no idea how this compares to others or how it might impact my stream quality.

My current system specs are going to be irrelavent soon since I am rebuilding, but here they are.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
Mobo: Asrock Extreme4
RAM: GeIL Super Luce 16GB
GPU: Evga GTX 980
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750
Sound Card: Sounblaster Z
Recording Card: Live Gamer HD

------
My new specs will be.
CPU: I7-6700K 4.00 GHz
Mobo: ASUS Z170-DELUXE
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB
GPU: Evga GTX 1080 FTW
PSU: ----- *
Sound Card: Sounblaster Z
Recording Card: Live Gamer HD

* PSU is undecided. I was going to get a 850w psu but I want to get a second 1080 and overvlock both of them as well as overclock my CPU. On websites that calculate power needs they say that I will need roughly 890 watts, which means I would need a 1000W power supply. However people on here said I should be fine. VERY confused about this.
------

So I guess really I just need to know if my net is holding me back or if it's just the old i5.

-Side note. If I did get a teaming router and plugged 2 ethernet cables into my rig, what would I gain? Or would I actually gain nothing?

You would gain nothing. The connection to your router from your PC is Gigabit so way beyond what your ISP offers. Hava i not answered this already?
As for PSU, those sites overestimate. 850W will be enough. An EVGA Supernova P2 is an excellent choice. G2 if the p2 is too expensive.
Have you tried lowering your streaming to 720p?

Disneyreject · Aug 17, 2016

Hlsgsz :

Thanks for responding!

Sorry I brought up the teaming again, I just was trying to figure out what a teaming router / dual eathernet port motherboad is even for.

The 850w isn't too expensive, just was worried it wouldn't be enough. Would hate to have to buy a 1k after finding out my 850 wouldn't be enough.

As for streaming at 720p, yes I have before. In fact my stream used to be really smooth all the time, but just recently when I streamed Monstrum or Overwatch it was just supper choppy and stuttering on stream. No idea what happened. Maybe I should just wait for my new build, test out streaming and go from there. I really want to stream at 1080p though. :/

bill001g · Aug 17, 2016

I was avoiding this because you were being given the correct advise. Nic teaming better called link or port aggregation, will not do what you want even if you had internet that exceeds 1g.

You can read the detail by search 802.3ad. The largest issue is how it selects the path for traffic. The issue is it will only load balance the the traffic by session at the very best. I will leave it to you to read the documents as to why this means it has little use in a home user install.

COLGeek · Aug 17, 2016

Even your current rig should be able to handle your needs. Have you updated all of your major drivers recently (video, chipset, etc)?

Also, what, if anything, are you OCing (CPU, GPU, memory)? When streaming, what is your CPU operating temperature?

Hlsgsz · Aug 17, 2016

Disneyreject :

Oh, ok, so in some games it's smooth while in others choppy with the same settings? In that case it's 100% your CPU to blame. That also goes for streaming becoming choppy when switching from 720p to 1080p because for 1080p60 you need 3.5Mbps(the maximum recommended by Twitch) and you have 10Mbps.

A dual ethernet port is so you can either connect to 2 networks at once for performance or redundancy reasons( that would be two separate networks with two different internet paths) or bridge them and daisy-chain another device to your network without having to run another cable from your router. And, ofcourse, so you have a backup in the odd case your port breaks.

As for the PSU, 850 would indeed be sufficient, but, if you can afford it, you should get a 1k because tehre are other considerations:
- PSU components age(not that it would give up on you, but..)
- these days many good quality PSUs don't start their fans until some they reach some temperature dependant on load. a more powerfull PSU will be able to take more load while remaining dead silent
- PSUs reach peak efficiency at 50% and maintain great efficiency upto about 80%, if you care about such things.
- peace of mind, adn not having to eliminate teh PSU as a source of trouble in case something breaks and you have to troubleshoot your PC

Even in teh 1kW range, my recommendation for an EVGA Supernova P2 stands: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJ6BD3/evga-power-supply-220p21000xr

Disneyreject · Aug 22, 2016

Ended up getting 1000w PSU. Thanks everyone for all the help, going to start straming again with the new rig. If I run into an issue again I will make a new post.

Much love

Hlsgsz · Aug 22, 2016

You're welcome!

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