GTX 1080 Not Showing Video on Boot (Works when I restart)

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I recently purchased a Gigabyte GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming card and when it works it works great. However, on almost all cold boots and some reboots the screen will go and stay blank. If I restart, it IMMEDIATELY kicks it into gear and I get video.
Here are most of my system specs:
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4
CPU: i5-3570 @ 3.40 GHz
PSU: Corsair HX1000w

I tried updating to the latest Windows Anniversary edition, making sure Fast Boot was turned off, tried different NVIDIA drivers (although I'm having trouble installing them so not on the latest, I may have found a fix I'll try in a bit but I don't think it's the NVIDIA driver) as well as switching PCI-e slots. A buddy of mine was going to help me flash the VBIOS since I was unsuccessful using nvflash from Windows so he's going to get a DOS boot USB and try it from there but that won't be until next week and I'm not sure it will help the issue.
Any help would be appreciated. Let me know if you need more info as I'm sure I missed something.
Thanks in advanced.
 
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Are you cutting power to the PSU or motherboard in some way after shutting down? Flipping the switch at the rear of a PSU and removing the power cord, unplugging any extensions or at the outlet, anything? It's always been my experience while working on PCs that, once the PSU is unplugged, the next boot won't reach POST, but holding the power button to shut it back down and after a few seconds, hitting the power button again results in it booting just fine.
 

vagabond251

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It's interesting you ask that because I used to flip the PSU switch at the end of the night but I stopped doing that a week ago and am still experiencing the issue. Mine boots fine after a restart but the first boot is always blank.
 

vagabond251

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I did. Not a dumb question at all. I appreciate you thinking outside the box. I have always had a dedicated GPU since the first build of this system in 2010. Started with 2 GTX470s then upgraded to 2 Gigabtyte Windforce cards at 4GB each. So the upgrade was from the Windforce cards in SLI to a single 1080.
 
Do you still have the cards?

If you do could you throw one in and see if the issues still happens?

If it does we can keep looking at the 1080 as the issue.
Maybe throw it into a willing friends computer to see if the issue still happens.

I don't think its the PSU but it might be but more likely the MOBO, i also checked and all the current BIOS of 2013 which is pretty darn old.

 

vagabond251

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I do have my old cards. They don't do it. Also I did one final test that was the last straw and confirmed it's the card: it wouldn't display on wake from sleep. Thanks so much for all of your guys' help with this but I think it's time to RMA it. Good thing I have a 4 year warranty. Also, I can survive on these cards for what I'm playing. Only Fallout 4 needed the power and I still don't understand why. But I have a huge backlog of old stuff so I can wait.

Thanks again for your time.
 

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I had the same problem for about a month until I found one little thing I missed. I always had AMD cards on an AMD chipset mb so I never worried about what slot I put the video card in. I recently upgraded to a 1070 and from then on...on every cold boot I would get to the windows logo and then no video. I reboot the pc and it worked fine. I tried updating the bios and drivers etc with no solution. I finally looked at the primary video start slot in the bios and it was set to PCI. Since I had no built in video on my mb I never thought anything about it. I was thinking PCI=PCIE and I was wrong. I clicked the setting and it offered not only PCI but PEG, PEG1, PEG2 and PEG3. I found out after looking it up that PEG = PCIE. I changed the setting to the correct PEG (PCIE) slot setting (PEG or PEG0 will be the top slot closest to the CPU) and now everything works great. I hope that helps your issue.
 

vagabond251

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Hey everyone,

Sorry to ressurect an old topic but I sent my card to RMA and they said there were no issues. I haven't tried switching from PCI to PEG but I'll try that when the card returns. In the meantime here's the updated question:
Hey everyone,

"What is happening is that every time I boot my machine I get no display. On a restart it immediately picks it up. Additionally there is no display on wake from sleep.

I posted about this about a month ago and then sent in my card for RMA. They said they found no problems though. I'm pretty worried because my system runs two 4GB Windforce 770s in SLI with no problems. Some people have suggested swapping the DisplayPort cable but I don't see that doing anything.


Here are my system specs as best as I can give right now:
CPU: i5-3570 @ 3.40GHz OC'd to 4.0 GHz (note I made the OC change AFTER sending the card in)
Motherboard: ASrock Z77 Extreme4 BIOS P2.0
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB
PSU: Corsair HX1000w

Things I have tried:
-Switching PCI-e slots
-Changing DisplayPort ports on the graphics card
-Upgrading to Windows 10 Anniversary
-Tried the three latest NVIDIA drivers
-Uninstalled the Xtreme Gaming Utility
-Confirming Fast Boot is turned OFF in BIOS

Any help would be appreciated. I'm feeling really stuck here. They say they'll ship me a new one if their technical support can't help anymore (they were the ones who suggested sending the card in in the first place though and even though I updated my ticket with them I'm guessing they won't have much to suggest).

Thanks in advanced. Let me know if you need more system info.
 

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Wow, finally someone who has the exact same issue with the exact same video card as me. Did you ever find a resolution to this?

I have two the Gigabyte 1080's in SLI, but started out with only one and still had the same issue. I have 3 monitors (Acer XB240H). When I power it up cold, it will POST from the second DisplayPort connection. Then only two of the monitors would be detected. The third will not get a signal EVEN if I unplug/plugin the DisplayPort connection in Windows. If I tell Windows to reset, it then work properly and display on all monitors. If I immediately press the reset button after about 3 seconds of pressing the power button, it will reset and put the POST screen on the monitor connected to the bottom DisplayPort connection, but then all monitors will be detected correctly. Baffling. Adding the second card did not help/fix. I did not have this issue with my MSI 980ti SLI.

I've tried everything the OP has tried, including replacing displayport cables, etc, and I'm currently talking to Gigabyte about it. Since pressing the reset button right after the power button fixes it, it can't help but tell me that this is an issue with the video card handshaking with the monitors.

My setup:
2 x Gigabyte GTX 1080 Xtreme SLI
MSI Z170A Gaming M7 motherboard
Intel 6700K CPU
3 x Acer XB240H monitors (144hz Gsync)






 

vagabond251

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Unfortunately I never found a solution. I had Gigabyte RMA and then send me a new one. I believe we have the same monitor so it could definitely be a DisplayPort issue. I've just learned to live with it since I've been troubleshooting for nearly two months now. I figure as long as the reset doesn't damage my machine or indicate something is failing I'm OK with hitting reset even though I'd rather not. Sorry I can't be more help man. Let me know if you have any other questions.
 

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Unfortunately I never found a solution. I had Gigabyte RMA and then send me a new one. I believe we have the same monitor so it could definitely be a DisplayPort issue. I've just learned to live with it since I've been troubleshooting for nearly two months now. I figure as long as the reset doesn't damage my machine or indicate something is failing I'm OK with hitting reset even though I'd rather not. Sorry I can't be more help man. Let me know if you have any other questions.

That's disappointing--and really unacceptable from Gigabyte's standpoint. This issue is very reproducible, and easy to isolate it to the video card. I haven't changed anything out on my system other than the video cards. The fact that I can simply press the reset button 2 seconds after the power button tells me that it's a hardware issue. I've found a couple of other folks on the web with the same issue, but Gigabyte is acting like I'm from Mars when I talk to them about it. I've always been a big fan of Gigabyte--of both their motherboards and video cards--but there's something up with these cards and it needs to be addressed. I'll keep you posted. Thanks.


 

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I agree. Gigabyte was less than helpful or understanding about the issue. Here's the problem I've been having in terms of troubleshooting. I'll make a change (first one was switching PCIe slots). Then it boots fine for a few days and then the problems come back. The exact same thing happened when I tried a different power supply. I'm glad to hear more people have the issue and it's not just me. I definitely think something is up with these cards and they just don't play nice with most setups. Definitely keep me posted.
 

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For me, the issue occurs every time on both cards (or just one card) no matter which DisplayPort ports I'm connected to. I made a video of it happening and I'm going to put it on YouTube and send it to them. I'm hoping I can prod them into looking into it. My guess is that it could fixed with a firmware update... but if it's a hardware design flaw they're going to be less than receptive. Either way, it's unacceptable and I'm absolutely shocked that their QA wouldn't have picked this up before sending them out.

Was the behavior exactly the same when you got the RMA replacement? Did they make you send in the entire box with all the components as well? Thanks, man.

 

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Here's how things went. I sent it to them and they said nothing was wrong so they sent it back (do NOT send accessories, you won't get them back and they don't need them for the RMA or replacement process. I got the Premium Pack so you bet I took all that stuff out before sending). Once I got the card back (my original one) it worked flawlessly for five days and then started having issues so I asked for a replacement. Replacement had the exact same issues. I think you're right and there's something goofy with this card (which sucks because it's pretty much the best 1080 design in my opinion). It still could be my motherboard but I doubt it. For the record I shipped in the original black box with just the card USPS and it got to CA from MD in two days. They always use UPS ground for their shipping back unless you have a code to punch in to pick a different method. The good news is they never require a signature. I hope this helps. Keep the questions coming. I did a LOT of Googling to try and find others with this issue but had no luck. Glad to know I'm not alone.
 

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So they sent you back the same card, eh? That's lame. The least they could do is give you a replacement to see if that fixes it. The only hardware we have in common other than the video card is the Acer monitors.. You said you have the XB240H, right? It's the 24" 144hz Gsync model.. Maybe it has to do with an incompatibility with the monitors. I don't have extra displayport monitors just lying around to find out. However, I do have a separate video processing PC I can put a card in, but requires tearing everything down again. :fou:

I've found a two other people with this issue on the Geforce forums and Facebook respectively. This is what the guy on FB posted on the Gigabyte FB page:

"I have a Gigabyte Xtreme gaming gtx 1080. I am having a issue and want to know if anyone else is having a similar issue. Ok,so every time I turn my PC on from it being powered off Only 1 monitor will be detected and the display is a very low resolution like it has no driver and than at last second on password window to get into windows the screen flickers with correct resolution. The second monitor will not detect unless I restart the PC and than both monitors are being detected. Never fails though when I turn PC back on from being powered down it does this every time. I have no USB devices plugged into my monitors, I am running windows 10 pro and my monitors are Asus swift 2560x1440p 27" 144hertz gsync and other monitor is Acer 4k 60herts gsync. I really do not want to return this card,but if I do not get help I may have to? I have tried DDU in safe mode and 3 different drivers etc.."

Of course he got no response.

This other poor UK chap has a similar issue, but a different video card and only a Gigabyte motherboard:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=17536.0
The last post he makes is darkly humorous, but sure very frustrating: "Just wondering - what's the point of an official Gigabyte forum when no one from Gigabyte answers any question? Are the problems reported here logged and reported to the developers writing the BIOS code? Is there any use posting here at all?"

and crickets...

Anyway, if we can narrow down where the issue is, maybe we can get some where. I've got two cards and a different PC to work with. I'll throw one of them in the other PC and see if still has an issue. Then I can at least tell Gigabyte exactly how they should be able reproduce it--hook up 3 Acer XB240Hs and cold boot. Strangely, the system has to be turned off for a while for this to occur. If I power it up after it's been off for only 5 minutes, it boots no problem. One other question for you: what case do you have? This may seem irrelevant, but I have the Corsair inverted case where the video cards are actually upside down. In my state of delirium trying to brainstorm fixes for this, I started thinking the orientation of the card might affect it. I dunno. Thanks.

 

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Your point about it working after short periods of being down was exactly the problem I experienced. When my buddy came over to switch the PSU we couldn't get it to repeat on my old one so we just threw in the other one for the heck of it. I don't think Gigabyte has been able to reproduce this because they'd essentially need one system with that card and be booting it every day for five-six days to see the symptoms. That's probably why they thought nothing was wrong with my card when I sent it.
 

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I sent this thread to Gigabyte (they said no one else had reported this issue), as well as making a YouTube video to demonstrate the issue. It's the worst video evar as I need to clean up, but I think it demonstrates the issue well. It's here if you're curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFjje62vi2c&feature=youtu.be

I asked them what my options were, and we'll see what they say. I hope they take care of it.. $1500 worth of video cards shouldn't do this.
 
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I have the same issue and here is the answer from Gigabyte. Sounds quite helpless ;)

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Question:
Hey everyone,
I'm recently purchased a Gigabyte GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming premium pack edition and when i boot after a cold boot its not showing Video on Boot. Seem that my graphic card didn't initialize on first boot. If I do a restart from there it immediately boots correctly. 10/17/2016 7:29 PM
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Dear Customer,

Thank you for your kindly mail and inquiry. About the issue you mentioned, we suggest you can try the following steps:

(1) Please confirm there is no insufficient power or overheat problem with your system and VGA card. We suggest you can try to clean up the cooling fan or add additional cooling fan to help cooling down your computer.

(2) Please test your system in a simple environment : Remove such as add-on cards, devices from motherboard, only install CPU, single memory, single HDD, VGA card and power.

(3) Regarding to motherboard, we suggest you can update motherboard BIOS to the latest version and test again.

(4) If possible, please try to test your VGA card in another system, or test your motherboard with different VGA card to see if there's a hardware problem.

Regards,

GIGABYTE
 

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Yep, I've been talking to Gigabyte about this for weeks on end. They want me to submit an RMA... for 2 cards?? Two cards that have the same behavior in two completely different machines? That makes no sense. They need to own up that there's a problem with either the BIOS or the PCB design and work towards a solution instead of endless responses asking you the same questions over and over and ignoring your answers.

Are you using DisplayPort monitors? How many and which ones? Thanks!
 

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I'am using one ASUS PG278Q at a display port. I tried all three ports at the graphic card. Sometimes it works sometimes not. At the moment i'am at the display port that is usable when you are in VR Mode. It was the one that had a black lock.
In your video its looking that one of your three monitor initalize on first boot. on which port is he?

Iam also using corsair RM750 power so i think that couldn't be the issue.
 

Beast96GT

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So if I understand you correctly, it sometimes doesn't detect even ONE monitor? I had it always detect at least one monitor, it would just routinely ignore the other two, and it didn't matter which ports I used. I tried every port configuration on both cards and even each card individually on two different PC's. I should have paid attention to which one had the black lock before I took them out--I assumed they were all the same. I'm glad to know it's not relegated to just the ACER XB240H, though..

Which monitor are you talking about in the video, left, middle, right? I'll have a look when I get home from work and see.

Right now, Gigabyte wants me to submit an RMA for both of them. I don't know what choice I have other than just live with the annoyance. I can't in good faith sell it to someone else knowing they may run into this, and I don't want to take a loss. These cards run great, they just have a DisplayPort detection issue.



 

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In the first time sometimes at the display ports with the yellow locks. Now iam using the VR mode display port (the one with the black lock) and it is running correctly (fingers crossed) since some days. The black lock display port is the one next to the hdmi and the dvi port.

I meant in the video at 1:50 the right one. Is that in the same display port iam using at the moment?

I have now the strong thinking that our cards are running in VR Mode not in the normal mode where all three ports are initianlizing from the beginning.
 

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Unfortunately, I've moved the cables around since making that video so I can't say for sure.

That said, there may be some hope.

Despite Gigabyte's support telling me there were no firmware updates or new revisions of the card, their website clearly shows otherwise.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=43&lgc=2

I'm assuming you have version 1.0 as do I. However, I don't know if there are actually any hardware changes other than the I/O port differences listed for VR mode on their website when I compare v1.0 and v2.0:

Rev 1.0
Standard mode (Dual-link DVI-D*1, DP1.4*3, HDMI 2.0b*1)
VR mode (Dual-link DVI-D*1, DP*1, HDMI*3)

Rev. 2.0
Standard mode (Dual-link DVI-D*1, DP1.4*3, HDMI 2.0b*1)
VR mode (DP*3, HDMI*3)

Maybe this won't fix the problem, but I'll have to RMA to find out--and hopefully they send me the updated version! (I'm going to request it).

I'll keep you guys posted, thanks.
 
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