Elgato HD60 Pro Record + Playing same PC

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Seeing as this is not an effective way to record I have changed my question to:
"I guess a better question is if my desktop + OBS will produce a better quality video than the Elgato HD60 (to the laptop, ignoring stream possibility) despite the tweaks I'll have to make due my spec bottleneck."

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[What are the system requirements if you wanted to record with the Elgato HD60 Pro and play AAA games on the same system.

Secondary question is if it would be possible to stream too (probably with lowered graphics)

My specs
i5-4690k 3.50GHz
GTX 970
RAM 16GB

Elgato information: https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/game-capture-hd60-pro ]
 
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Elgatos are only necessary for recording consoles or from another computer, not the same one.

You can try OBS since it's free:
https://obsproject.com/
And here's how to set it up for local recordings, start at the recommended crf 15, and lower the number for higher quality and higher file size recordings, or raise it for slightly lower quality and smaller file sizes.
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-make-high-quality-local-recordings.16/
And to set it up for twitch:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1262922-open-broadcaster-software

If you have an Nvidia GPU, you can use that to reduce the load on your CPU:
To set it up for recordings:
1. go to settings
2. go to encoding
3. click the Nvidia NVENC button
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Elgatos are only necessary for recording consoles or from another computer, not the same one.

You can try OBS since it's free:
https://obsproject.com/
And here's how to set it up for local recordings, start at the recommended crf 15, and lower the number for higher quality and higher file size recordings, or raise it for slightly lower quality and smaller file sizes.
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-make-high-quality-local-recordings.16/
And to set it up for twitch:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1262922-open-broadcaster-software

If you have an Nvidia GPU, you can use that to reduce the load on your CPU:
To set it up for recordings:
1. go to settings
2. go to encoding
3. click the Nvidia NVENC button
4. Make sure Use CBR is turned on
5. Make sure Enable CBR Padding is turned off
6. Set your Max Bitrate (Kb/s) to your upload max upload speed. You'll want like 8000 or more though, this affects the visual quality of the video partly. (1mbps = 1000 kbps, www.speedtest.net)
7. go to Video and set the FPS to 60
8. Go to Advanced
9. Turn Use Multithreaded Optimizations on
10. Set NVENC Preset to High Quality
11. Set Encoding Profile to Main
12. Turn Use CFR on.

To capture your game:
1. Right click in the white area of the Scenes: box and choose add scene, name it after the game you're gonna play.
2. Start the game you're gonna play.
3. right click in the Sources: box and choose Game Capture (for full screen games) or Window Capture (for windowed games whether borderless or not) or Monitor (to capture whatever is display one your monitor including your desktop/webbrowser/OBS)
4. Start recording.

To add a webcam:
1. Right click in the Sources: box and choose Video Capture Device.
2. Choose your webcam from the dropdown list at the top. Press Okay.
3. Click Preview Stream
4. Click the Video Capture in the sources list, go to Order and choose Move to Top.
5. Press the Edit Scene button

 
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Thanks a lot for the advice!

I've tried OBS and I've always noticed a hit to gameplay performance. So I'm left with reducing gameplay graphics or the quality of the video.
I've used shadow play before too and its reliability is questionable. Shadowplay sometimes varies the FPS and it didn't sit well with sony vegas.

I guess the most cost efficient solution is to record to a secondary computer. ATM I'm using the elgato HD to record to my laptop. I don't think my laptop would be able to record from the Elgato HD60? I know it won't be able to stream, but I believe it will record.

Elgato HD 60: https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/game-capture-hd60

Specs:
MacBook Pro
i5 2.3GHz
RAM 4GB
Intel HD Graphics 3000 384MB

I guess a better question is if my desktop + OBS will produce a better quality video than the Elgato HD60 (to the laptop, ignoring stream possibility) despite the tweaks I'll have to make due my spec bottleneck.

 
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Well, do you have a 7200RPM HDD dedicated for recordings to be written to?
That can cause janky video if it records to the same drive it's running software from.
Recording is extremely hardware intensive, so hardware intensive AAA games can not play well with it.

Your system is fine for playing AAA games, but not necessarily also recording them.

Try using task manager to manually assign separate CPU cores to OBS and the game, them trying to use the same cores may be causing a conflict.

You also have to understand that no matter what, your videos won't compare to the quality of popular content producers. they have much more powerful hardware than you do and they have system resources to spare for recording at the highest quality, and then they spend time to edit the videos to make sure they maintain that quality when uploaded.
 
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