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Dell 9010 DT, i7-3770, RAM-original: 4gb, 1600mhz, CL11, 1.5V, Dell 0KV62T mobo, Win 7 Pro 64-bit, BIOS-A08

Will the heat spreader on a Crucial 8GB RAM Balistix, Sport: 1600mhz or XT: 1866 mhz, fit next to the CPU cooler, if not can the heat spreader be easily removed ...

I found these 2 Crucial 16GB RAM 2 x 8GB kits with heat spreaders on ebay. They are not listed on the Crucial Dell 9010 compatibilty page:

Crucial Ballistix Sport: PC3-12800, DDR3, 16GB 2 x 8GB, 1600mhz, CL9 w/timings: 9-9-9-24, 1.5V ... $57.00 on ebay, img: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0sEAAOSwYmZXIlj6/s-l400.jpg

Crucial Ballistix Sport XT: PC3-14900, 16GB, 8GB x2, DDR3, 1866 MHz, CL10, 1.5V ... $62.00 on ebay, img: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JFwAAOSwVFlUDjec/s-l1600.jpg

Which is the better performing RAM of those 2, the 1600mhz-CL9 or the 1866mhz-CL10 ... Will either or both of them work 100% as labeled with the Dell 9010 DT ... PC specs listed at top ...

Listed on Crucial Comp-page: CAS-CL11: Crucial, 16GB-Kit, 2x 8GB, DDR3, 1600mhz, PC3-12800, CL11 ... $65.00 on ebay, img: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/t-EAAMXQfvlSnn8V/s-l1600.jpg

Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600mhz, CL9: A simple, slick Alum Heat Spreader delivers thermal performance along with standard timings and voltages, making this reliable, quality module ideal for max-stability and compatibility. With industry-stand-specs, little or no BIOS config required.

Crucial, Dell 9010 Compatibility-page, there are 15 choices and they are all CL11 or CL13, none of them are under CL11 http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Dell/optiplex-9010-%28desktop%29

Is the CL9 Crucial Ballistix Sport, DDR3, PC3-12800, 16GB Kit, 2 x 8GB, 1600mhz, CL9 w/timings: 9-9-9-24. ( or the XT 1866mhz, CL10 version )

Going to be fully compatible with the Dell 9010 DT ( PC Specs listed at top ) and performing at the RAM's full lower CL9-rating ( or the XT's CL10-rating ) or will it revert to the PC's original supplied RAMs higher CL11-rating ...

If the Dell 9010's mobo and-or BIOS is just going to revert the CL9 or CL10 version RAM back to CL11, then I don't need to get the CL9 or CL10 version RAM ...
 
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It's the side, width of the heat spreader not the height, although the 1866mhz-B-Sport-XT version is alot taller than the 1600mhz-B-Sport and might be too tall for the case ... I'm also looking at the RAM at your link ... Will CL9 RAM work with the Dell 9010 DT ( PC Specs listed at top ).
 
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There is no RAM settings on that mobo because Dell Optiplex 9010, which happens to be your pc, is a machine aimed for business environment use, so its motherboard will not support any fancy OC, please bear that in mind. This means that no matter what kind of fancy RAM you install, its speed is going to be limited to the speed supported by the motherboard.
 
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"This means that no matter what kind of fancy RAM you install, its speed is going to be limited to the speed supported by the motherboard."

"Speed ..."

Does that also mean that the CAS-CL-#-ratings such as the CL9 and CL10 RAM mentioned above, also, won't run at CL9 or CL10, for example: the RAM on the Crucial-9010-Compat-page doesn't mention any RAM below CL11.

Or is the CL-#-rating a different story than the "speed - mhz - 1024Meg x 64." Will the Dell 9010 BIOS be able to read the CL9 or CL10 RAM and run it at their timings, such as: CL9 w/timings: 9-9-9-24 at 1.5V.

The Dell 9010 does run DDR3 RAM at 1600mhz, at C11 ... On the Crucial 9010-comp-page a 1855mhz CL13 RAM is offered.

This is from an ebay listing, it shows at the bottom in the Specs the standard-V-rating for the kind of RAM the Dell 9010 DT used originally, which is 1.5V ... Here are the Specs for:

Crucial DDR3 memory conforms to the industry standard UDIMM layout of 240 pins and is compatible with computers that take DDR3 UDIMM memory.

Specs: Crucial: CT102464BA160B - 8G - 240-pin - UDIMM - Speed: DDR3 PC3-12800MB/s - 1600mhz - CL: 11 - Voltage: 1.5V

What's the difference between these 2 kinds of speed ratings - 1600mhz and 1024Meg x 64 ...

8gb, 1866mhz, CL13, RAM is available on the Dell 9010 compatibilty page ... So 1866mhz-speed will work with the Dell 2010 DT, right, or is that only going to work because it's rated at CL13 and not at CL11 ...
 
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The motherboard on the Dell 9010 is able to read DDR3 at 1600Mhz. This means whether you install the Crucial Ballistix or a Kingston HyperX, both will work at 1600Mhz with timings provided by each manufacturer.
 
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Like the others have stated, that system is not going to give you very many options to customize performance. That being said, the motherboard will most likely read the SPD of the DIMMs, and automatically set them to run at whatever settungs the manufacturer programmed in. There's a good chance that the CL9 stuff will run at CL9, but there's no way anything will run at higher than 1600MHz.
 
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Thanks to you for your amazing help with all of this,

Considering all that has been answered and cleared up, here is 1 more question that was already asked but got lost in the shuffle:

[ "but there's no way anything will run at higher than
1600MHz. " ]

About the original highest mhz rating of 1600mhz for that mobo,

Dell 9010 DT, i7-3770, RAM-original: 4gb, 1600mhz, CL11, 1.5V, Dell 0KV62T mobo, Win 7 Pro 64-bit, BIOS-A08

On the Crucial Dell 9010 DT Upgrade Compatibility page it does list 1866mhz RAM at CL13, does that mean that it's (1866mhz) likely to work with the Dell 9010 DT. If it does, does that also mean that the Crucial 1866mhz 16gb CL10 RAM set already mentioned above and listed below from ebay, is also likely to work, and at CL10 ...

From Crucial Dell 9010 DT Upgrade Comp-page http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Dell/optiplex-9010-%28desktop%29

Crucial 16GB, 2 x 8GB, DDR3, 1866mhz, PC3-14900, CL13, 1.35V, 1024Meg x 64, upgrade for Dell OptiPlex 9010 DT system. http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/optiplex-9010-%28desktop%29/CT7372414

From ebay: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT: PC3-14900, 16GB, 8GB x2, DDR3, 1866 MHz, CL10, 1.5V ... $62.00 on ebay, img: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JFwAAOSwVFlUDjec/s-l1600.jpg
 
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It's gonna work with the Dell, only not with the speed of 1866, it's gonna auto adjust to 1600, and lower CL, maybe 10 or 9.
 
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I'm ordering the Crucial Ballistix Sport 2 x 8gb 1600mhz CL9, but I'm not sure which RAM-slots to install them in. I'm not sure that the 2 x 2gb RAM that are installed now in the right RAM-slots and are operating in 2 channel mode or not ...

Dell 9010 DT, Win 7 Pro 64-bit, i7-3770, RAM 4gb 1600mhz CL11, Dell 0KV62T mobo, BIOS-rev-A08

There are 2 separate banks of "2-RAM-slots" per bank, with a 3/8" space between the 2 RAM-banks, starting right next to the CPU, with a #mark on the mobo right next to each of the 4 RAM-slots, and each RAM-slot has alternating white or black securing-clips.

The order #s of the 1-2-3-4 RAM-slots is not the same #marked on the mobo next to each RAM-slot. It's not marked as: CPU, 1, 2, 3, 4 or CPU, 1, 3, 2, 4 ... It is in order marked as: s1-mrk#3, s2-mrk#1, s3-mrk#2, s4-mrk#4

Here is the RAM bank and slot order and the #marked and clip-color for each RAM-slot. Dell 9010 DT Dual-channel RAM Diagram:

CPU, RAM-bank-1: slot-1) mrkd#3-blk-clips, slot-2) mrkd#1-wht-clips --- 3/8" space on mobo btwn RB-1 --- and RAM-bank-2: slot-3) mrkd#2-blk-clips, slot-4) mrkd#4-wht-clips ...

Is each RAM-bank of 2 RAM-slots one of the 2 available RAM channels ... Are the 1st 2 RAM-slots in the 1st RAM-bank: s1-mrkd#3-blk-clips and s2-mrkd#1-wht-clips, both part of the same RAM channel ...

Or is: slot-1 mrkd#3-blk-clips and slot-2 mrkd#1-wht-clips, which are both in the 1st-RAM-bank, each a part of a different RAM channel out of the 2 Rc's that are available ...

Which 2 RAM-slots, by RAM-bank, slot-order, slot-mrk#, clips-color, are part of the 1st, primary, of the 2 RAM-channels and which 2 RAM-slots are part of the 2cnd or other RAM channel.

If only using 1-16gb - 2 x 8gb RAM-set, with only 2 of the 4 RAM-slots to be used, which 2 RAM-slots, by slot-order, #markd, and clips-color should they be installed in, in order to get dual channel RAM performance by using the 1st, primary, 2-slot, RAM channel ...
 
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If you are ordering a pair of 2 8GB sticks, for the sake of compatibility, the best you can do is remove the current RAM sticks and replace them with the new ones that will arrive. You won't feel much difference with more than 16gb anyway.
 
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I'm not sure if the current 2 x 4gb RAMs are in the correct "1st RAM in channel-1 slot and the 2cnd RAM in the 2cnd channel slot. They might both be in the same RAM-channel, and not performing as dual-RAM-channel-mode ...

On that Dell 9010 DT mobo right next to the CPU, in the 1st RAM-bank, are 2 RAM-slots, the 1st one mrkd#3-blk-clips and the 2cnd one mrkd#1-wht-clips, both part of RAM channel 1 ...

Or is one of those 2 RAM-slots part of RAM channel 1 and the other RAM-slot part of channel 2 ...

Another way to ask the question: Each RAM-bank has 2 RAM-slots: one Rs-blk-clips and one Rs-wht-clips.

Do those 2 RAM-slots together, comprise 1 of the 2 RAM channels. Or is 1 of those RAM-slot-blk-clips part of one of the 2 RAM channels and the other RAM-slot-wht-clips part of the other RAM channel ...
 
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Then in order for you to use dual channel in that board, you must use either both black banks or white banks, not black and white in sequence.

The order like I said is always one bank busy one free.
 
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I'm still not sure if what you are referring to as "Banks" is the same as what I'm referring to as RAM-Banks ...

There are 2 RAM-Banks,

See img as diagram: Each RAM-Bank has one Blk-RAM-slot ( RB-1: mrkd#3-Blk -- RB-2: mrkd#4-Blk ) and one Wht-RAM-slot ( RB-1: mrkd#1-Wht -- RB-2: mrkd#2-Wht )

Then there is a 3/8" space between RAM-Bank-1 and RAM-Bank-2 ...

Look at that Dell 9010 mobo img-diagram again ...

So, you're saying that in order to run 2 x 8gb RAMs in

Dual Channel Mode and leaving 2 RAM-slots empty,

we should put one RAM in the 1st RAM-slot next to the CPU, which is the 1st RAM-slot, it's mrkd#3-Wht-clips,

and the other ( 2cnd-RAM ) in the RAM-slot mrkd#-?-and-color-? ...
 
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Banks as DIMM slots, memory slots, memory banks, all the same. This is a LGA1155 motherboard so the Dual channel is the usual, One Memory slot busy the next free. Both blacks busy, both whites free, or vice-versa.
 
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I was referring to RAM-Banks as being the 1st 2 RAM-slots that are right next to the CPU as being the 1st RAM-Bank and the 2cnd RAM-Bank being after the 3/8" space on the mobo between the 1st 2 DIMMs and the 2cnd 2 DIMMs ...

Read my above comment again, I edited it to ask the question alot better ...

or I'll just type it here again:

I'm still not sure if what you are referring to as "Banks" is the same as what I'm referring to as RAM-Banks ...

There are 2 RAM-Banks,

See img as diagram: Each RAM-Bank has one Blk-RAM-slot ( RB-1: mrkd#3-Blk -- RB-2: mrkd#4-Blk ) and one Wht-RAM-slot ( RB-1: mrkd#1-Wht -- RB-2: mrkd#2-Wht )

Then there is a 3/8" space between RAM-Bank-1 and RAM-Bank-2 ...

Look at that Dell 9010 mobo img-diagram again ...

So, you're saying that in order to run 2 x 8gb RAMs in

Dual Channel Mode and leaving 2 RAM-slots empty,

we should put one RAM in the 1st RAM-slot next to the CPU, which is the 1st RAM-slot, it's mrkd#3-Wht-clips,

and the other ( 2cnd-RAM ) in the RAM-slot mrkd#-?-and-color-? ...
 
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Wait a second,

Relating to the Dell 2010's RAM-DIMMs and their RAM-DIMM-slots design-set-up,

Are you saying that in order to have Dual RAM Channel Mode we need to put one DIMM in a Wht-clip RAM-slot and the other DIMM in a Blk-clip RAM-slot ...

And the 1st RAM-slot used, has to be the one closest to the CPU, so that it is read correctly by the BIOS, right ...
 
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Relating to the Dell 2010's RAM-DIMMs and their RAM-DIMM-slots design-set-up,

Are you saying that in order to have Dual RAM Channel Mode we need to put one DIMM in a Wht-clip RAM-slot and the other DIMM in a Blk-clip RAM-slot ...

Or to put both DIMMs in the 2 same color-clip RAM-slots ...
 
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