What has higher priority for making a PC that can record games nicely?

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So I like to make YouTube videos, but unfortunatly I'm a bit of an idiot and don't know what NEEDS to be upgraded and what doesn't.

My specs:
Computer: Optiplex 790 Mini Tower (MT)
RAM: 6GB
CPU: Intel I3-2120 (3.30GHz) (I know... It's bad)
GPU: GT 730 (I know again... It sucks)
PSU: 265w (Sucks again)
Motherboard: Stock
Hard Drive 1: maxtor stm3160813as
Hard Drive 2: ST380815AS
Microphone: Condensor Microphone from Tonor (Model: TN12326)
Mouse: Bazoo NANO LTD/28780 (Literally the worst)
Keyboard: Really old DELL one
Monitors: 2

Now, what out of all of that NEEDS to be upgarded. I am on a pretty low budget but I can increase that in the future. When I record World of Tanks, the game play is perfect! I don't even notice that I am recording, but when I watch the video back, the video is really choppy and unwatchable! I have changed settings like the encoder and the details in the recording (e.g. 1080p60) and I have done many things. So I thought I would need to upgrade my CPU so it can handle the recording nicely, but then I realise my socket is the "FCLGA1155" and I have NO idea what that means, all I know is that I can't just buy any CPU and expect it to work. But then I was thinking, maybe I need a bigger and better hard drive or an SSD, but I have no idea what SATA my computer is (Hopefully someone can tell me). And then I was thinking maybe I should get more ram, like an extra stick of 4GB (I already have 3 sticks in my computer) which would make my ram 10GB and allow smoother game play, but like I said, I have NO idea what I need to get in order to get better recording quality. I have looked for CPU upgrades but all of them are more worse than the CPU I have now as my socket is really weird. Then I was thinking, maybe I should upgrade my motherboard, but I really have no clue what would fit my case and what would work and what wouldn't... And then I was thinking "You know what, screw it. I will ask people on this website" and yeah... Hopefully you guys can help. Just to say, I have no webcam, and a lot of people like YouTubers with webcams to see their reactions and stuff. Also my headphones are really bad, one side of my headphones stopped working so I might need a new pair but I am sure it can wait. My budget is strictly set to £60. (That's the money I have earned off YouTube, but not with games. I want to switch content whilst I still can) So hopefully you guys can tell me what needs to be upgraded more than something else (e.g. Get this CPU, get this SSD, and then get that RAM).

Thanks :)
 
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Don't spend any money trying to upgrade your system, according to the specs, your PCIe slot is limited to 35 watts, which is not really good to run any higher end video cards. By the time you replace enough parts in the computer you have to make it suitable for gaming and recording at the same time, the only thing original would be the power switch and RAM.

Sell it, build a new system from scratch. For a PC that does not bog down when recording, you'd need about $700-800.
The gt 730 supports shadowplay do you use that to record?
The fact that you get good gameplay but choppy recording is due to task priorities in windows (google to see how to change them) you can put your recording software to real time to get smooth recordings but your FPS in-game might suffer.
Shadowplay has very low CPU overhead and should not affect your framerate.

I do recordings with a celeron and an gtx650,here is a video of wot that I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHcppGHODi4
 

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So I changed the priorities and no difference. Using Bandicam makes the footage look nice but I can't see what I am recording and I have less settings to play around with on it. And no, the 730 does not support shadow play :(

 
so...
1) I don't think your computer is strong enough to record gameplay well at all, it's too low in all areas.
2) Rather than upgrade your old outdated hardware with somewhat stronger outdated hardware, I'd say start saving up around $800-900 and you can afford a system that can actually record stuff.
3) Your hard drives may not be good enough to record gameplay, especially if you try to run your games off the HDD you're recording too, they're also pretty dumpy HDDS.
4) You can try the following to see if it improves anything, try both the local recording setup method and the nvidia encoder setup method. The local method uses CPU power, which you don't have a lot of, and the nvidia encoder uses GPU power (but may require shadowplay functionality which you lack)

You can try OBS since it's free:
https://obsproject.com/
And here's how to set it up for local recordings, start at the recommended crf 15, and lower the number for higher quality and higher file size recordings, or raise it for slightly lower quality and smaller file sizes.
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-make-high-quality-local-recordings.16/
And to set it up for twitch:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1262922-open-broadcaster-software

If you have an Nvidia GPU, you can use that to reduce the load on your CPU:
To set it up for recordings:
1. go to settings
2. go to encoding
3. click the Nvidia NVENC button
4. Make sure Use CBR is turned on
5. Make sure Enable CBR Padding is turned off
6. Set your Max Bitrate (Kb/s) to your upload max upload speed. You'll want like 8000 or more though, this affects the visual quality of the video partly. (1mbps = 1000 kbps, www.speedtest.net)
7. go to Video and set the FPS to 60
8. Go to Advanced
9. Turn Use Multithreaded Optimizations on
10. Set NVENC Preset to High Quality
11. Set Encoding Profile to Main
12. Turn Use CFR on.

To capture your game:
1. Right click in the white area of the Scenes: box and choose add scene, name it after the game you're gonna play.
2. Start the game you're gonna play.
3. right click in the Sources: box and choose Game Capture (for full screen games) or Window Capture (for windowed games whether borderless or not) or Monitor (to capture whatever is display one your monitor including your desktop/webbrowser/OBS)
4. Start recording.

To add a webcam:
1. Right click in the Sources: box and choose Video Capture Device.
2. Choose your webcam from the dropdown list at the top. Press Okay.
3. Click Preview Stream
4. Click the Video Capture in the sources list, go to Order and choose Move to Top.
5. Press the Edit Scene button
 

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Hey man, I tried using (still trying) OBS and already knew how to change all of those settings and mixed and matched. Lowered, higherd etc and still really bad gameplay. I now use Bandicam, but Bandicam isn't as advanced as OBS :/ Thanks for the help. Also, I do not want to buy a pre made setup, I would like to make my own. I know it takes a lot of money and confusion but I know It's cheaper than buying an already made PC.

 
60 pounds isn't gonna be enough to upgrade any piece of your current setup though, your entire computer is pretty much insufficient for good recordings, you'd need 500-700 pounds to build a new one.

Increasing your ram could kinda help, but then you'd be mixing ram sets and that can introduce a whole slew of problems.

You could get like an i7-2600, but those typically cost around 110-140 pounds.

You definitely need a better GPU, and those will cost like 130-300 pounds, and if you do, you'll definitely need a bigger PSU as well, but the size of yours makes me think it may be an external one. (does it have a laptop like power brick? or is it just a straight cord from the outlet to the computer?) you can't upgrade external PSUs.

You'd still be better off with newer hardware though, as the age of your older hardware makes getting appropiate parts as expensive as new parts pretty much.
 

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It is a straight cord from the power outlet to the plug in the wall. Thanks

 
Don't spend any money trying to upgrade your system, according to the specs, your PCIe slot is limited to 35 watts, which is not really good to run any higher end video cards. By the time you replace enough parts in the computer you have to make it suitable for gaming and recording at the same time, the only thing original would be the power switch and RAM.

Sell it, build a new system from scratch. For a PC that does not bog down when recording, you'd need about $700-800.
 
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