Best PC Build for Design Student

christofu

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I'm a design student looking to get/build a PC for under $1000. I'm majoring in Industrial Design so I'll be 3D modelling. I also want to get into a bit of video editing in my free time. The programs I'll be using are:

  • Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, Premiere etc.
    Autodesk Inventor, 3ds Max
I'm a gamer and would like to be able to run new games at high quality. I'd also like to potentially dual boot Mac OSX on the PC, and I presume that requires some extra storage space.

Cheers
 
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christofu,

Given the demands of the software and the budget, the best cost /performance solution is going to be a used workstation. As 3Ds, Premiere, and After Effects to some degree can benefit from multi-threading, a high...
You're in a bit of a quandary as you really need two different GPUs; a Quadro or FirePro series for modelling and a GTX or R series for gaming. It's entirely possible to use modelling software without a GPU, but performance will suffer as a result.

The question is, between modelling, editing and gaming, which is the most important?
 

christofu

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Modeling will be most important, then gaming, then editing.
 
In that case, a Quadro or FirePro card is the way to go. It's still possible to game on them, but the price/performance ratio will be significantly worse. For example, a K2200 costs around $400 USD but offers gaming performance close to a GTX 750 Ti, which only costs around $100.

Adobe programs benefit from a CPU with a fast clock speed and multiple threads, so an i3-6100 is a good starting point. Premiere can utilise GPU acceleration for rendering a video, but only Photoshop CC and CS can utilise GPU acceleration, and even then, only for specific tasks. Photoshop Elements can't utilise GPU acceleration at all.

Autodesk programs are single-threaded, so a CPU with a strong core and fast clock speed is a must.

Does your budget need to include an OS, monitor and other accessories?
 

christofu

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It needs to include the OS, but I already have the monitor, keyboard etc.
 
OK, here's something:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY Quadro K4000 3GB Video Card ($486.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1044.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-24 02:52 EDT-0400

Nvidia recently announced two high-end Quadro GPUs based on the Pascal architecture. If you can hold-off on building this PC then it may be worth waiting and seeing what Nvidia do with the low-mid Quadro range, as it hasn't been refreshed for some time.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-pascal-quadro-p6000-p5000,news-53525.html
 

christofu

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Would this fit in to my existing Dell Inspiron 545 Mini-tower case:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($488.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($119.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: Dell 500GB hard drive (not sure of make)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Cooling: Foxconn Brushless 12V 3 Pin Rear Case Cooling Fan

PCPartPicker part list: http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/m7vfvV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/m7vfvV/by_merchant/

The CPU, Motherboard and Ram are all upgrades, the rest are existing components I have.

Cheers
 


christofu,

Given the demands of the software and the budget, the best cost /performance solution is going to be a used workstation. As 3Ds, Premiere, and After Effects to some degree can benefit from multi-threading, a high memory bandwidth, and that benefit will continue to improve, plus the need for viewports, high-level anti-aliasing, and 10-bit color for color correction, A Xeon / ECC RAM/ Quadro ( both Autodesk and Adobe are CUDA accelerated) system will be best. Importantly, Xeon LGA1366 and E5 can support more than 4-cores.

The idea here is to sell you current system and combine the $1,000 upgrade budget to buy a workstation that eventually can be upgraded to at least a 6 or 8-core CPU. Candidates for this system could also include the Xeon LGA1366, such as Dell Precision T3500, 5500, and 6500, HP z400, z600, z800 but E5 is more forward-looking- LGA2011 supports up to 8-core and the system can also have an SATAIII disk systems and USB 3.

I didn't see any likely prospects today on Trade Me NZ, but here's a completed sale on Ebahh AUS:

HP Workstation Z420 (Intel Xeon E5-1620 3.6GHz) > sold for AU $546.00

To this system, add:

1. +8GB RAM
2. Used Quadro K2200
3. Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
4. If you can buy from the US, and the budget allows, find a Xeon E5-2680 or E5-2690 and that will increase the system to an 8-core with and the substantial benefits to Premiere and AE.

We have two HP z420's, one with the E5-1620, and this was used for AutoCad, Solidworks, Sketchup, Adobe CS6 and Corel Technical Designer with very good results. The Xeon E5-1620 4-core is 3.6 /3.8GHz has a very good single-threaded performance.

Besides that these systems can be upgraded going forward to 8-core and if it's a later one, to E5- v2 and 12-cores, they are ultra-reliable and quiet. One of the most important benefits in this example is that the right choice can mean using it within hours instead of researching, ordering, installing, configuring, and problem-solving an assembled or substantially upgraded system. Also, with a Dell or HP, there is a convenient one-stop support structure- new BIOS, drivers, user /service manual, parts, user support forum, the OEM Windows- invaluable. To upgraded your current system with a new motherboard, CPU, and power supply will result in a compromise, system with perhaps one moderate improvement remaining and a lower residual value.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering:

HP z620 (Rev 2) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 /3.8GHz) / 40GB DDR3-1600 ECC) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5322 / CPU= 19675 / 2D= 767 / 3D = 3544/ Mem =2337 / Disk = 12951 ] 8.15.16

Network: Netgear GS108-400NAS
 
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