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hi guys!

i want to upgrade my computer (gpu)

i want to buy gtx970 but i only have 400w psu

so, can u guys recommend me the best gpu for 400w psu

spec:

intel core i3 4150 3.5ghz
corsair vengeance blue (2x4gb)
gigabyte h81m-ds2
his radeon r7 360 (current gpu)
fsp hexa+ h2-400w

ty before! :D

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did i have a good psu?
 
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The EVGA 500B is terrible ajpaolello, although OP your PSU does need upgrading.
Get the Seasonic S12II 520w.
Made by Seasonic, and is very high quality.
By the way, an RX 470 is cheaper than a 970, and performs a little bit better. Crossfire is also an option in the future with the PSU listed.
Get this combo, comes out to $258. http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-NT4704G&c=CJ
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PSS12II520&c=CJ
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Seems like that PSU comes with the case, and most of those are junk. I think it could do it, but you would need a better pus than the one that came with your case. The EVGA 500B is about $40 and it's a decent PSU for the price. Also gives you 100 more watts which is much more comfortable for the 970.
 
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The EVGA 500B is terrible ajpaolello, although OP your PSU does need upgrading.
Get the Seasonic S12II 520w.
Made by Seasonic, and is very high quality.
By the way, an RX 470 is cheaper than a 970, and performs a little bit better. Crossfire is also an option in the future with the PSU listed.
Get this combo, comes out to $258. http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-NT4704G&c=CJ
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PSS12II520&c=CJ
 
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It is made by HEC, a low quality OEM with a history of poor products.
Ripple is terrible, and capacitors are cheap.
Here is an article summing it up.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b
Only time I would recommend buying them is when they go on sale to the $29.99 mark or below, which is usually around once every few months on Newegg.
They're good power supplies for budget builds, but nothing more imo due to the poor performance at moderate-high load potentially resulting in damage to a system that draws around the rated wattage, or god forbid higher.

It is the metaphorical glue which holds your system together, and you can get a quality unit for $20 more.
Never skimp on a power supply, rule 1 of PC building.

 
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The EVGA 500B is not terrible. It seems too many people have no middle ground territory; there are not just "great" and "terrible" power supplies in this world. Most are somewhere in the middle, especially the S12ii with its fan bearing noises it makes, group regulated design, and failure to properly implement overcurrent protection even though its specifications say it has it. There are just power supplies and their usages.

I don't see how the EVGA 500B has terrible ripple http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=351

Also I'm going to call out that overclock.net author. He is complaining over Teapo and Capxon capacitors. Like what? Did he look at the spec sheets? The temp ratings and other properties, or the fan profile? People need to realize that having Japanese capacitors does not make a power supply good. There are certain Chinese caps that are better than certain Japanese capacitors, and some overclock.net guy complaining over the brand is being totally biased against a capacitor company rather than analyzing the properties of the particular series of capacitors used.

I don't see how people can expect to see high quality, expensive capacitors in budget units. There's nothing wrong with getting a budget power supply if it will last you as long as you need it to. Those capacitors in the Seasonic will fail eventually, too, and could fry the computer. The S12ii probably doesn't use the best capacitors either, considering its price. Being Nippon Chemi-Con does not make them the best, it depends on what particular ones are used. It's more a matter of how often he uses his computer, his budget, and how long he'd like it to last.
 
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Thank you for also being a middle ground guy! It's not the best power supply, but it's hard to beat at it's price.
 
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The EVGA 500B models. has a 3 year warranty; they don't give power supplies they expect to last 1 year a 3 year warranty. Of course, how long it lasts depends on many factors, most importantly how often it is used. Just because it's HEC doesn't mean anything; that is just discriminating manufacturers. HEC just does what is asked of them, and as can be seen they can do a very good job as in the Cougar LX600. But unless anybody gives me actual proof that they are terrible. From what I see the fan profile is not the most relaxed, which is why it gets louder, but the faster fan RPM should help it to survive a longer time. But really, I don't see what makes them terrible. Capxon and Teapo is not something that makes something terrible. Neither is being manufactured by HEC. Nor are Japanese capacitors what make something good. 80mv of ripple does not make something terrible either. You have to look at the whole picture. I partly blame a lot of reviewers for only mentioning the capacitor brand instead of the series. You also have to look at the diameter, ESR (or inductance for primary caps), rated lifespan, placement, and ripple they will be under.

HEC's engineers have much more knowledge of all this than we do. And the 3 year warranty is something that can give assurance.

I'd never get the 500B since it can get loud and has a sleeve bearing fan. But for certain people and depending on its price I could see it being a viable option. Yes, though, the S12ii is a lot better, but I still don't think the 500B is terrible.
 
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so, i must upgrade my cpu if i want gtx 970?
bottleneck for 10-15 fps?

umm guys what about palit gtx960? is it good vga for me?

btw im playing on 720p @60hz

and this psu not comes with my case
 
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Just go for GTX 1060 3GB if you can pay for it . faster , near GTX 980 speed , some times even faster than GTX 980 , low watts (120 only) ... better for you.

and if you can pay for 6GB version , even better (but not needed much on most games if you play on FHD)
 
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Where is his budget ? besides , they are the same price ... only $10 difference

also , the RX480 is way slower

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/6.html

and finally , both RX480 and GTX 970 work at the same 150W TDP power

the GTX 1060 needs only 120W

 
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ajpaolello.....9fps is a 10% improvement, and that's in a DX12 title where AMD has the advantage in terms of optimization.
Please, if we were making comparisons on Vulkan, that would give specific cards an advantage, wherein AMD has worked with Vulkan during development, and therefore their cards are better optimized for it.
Both sites listed are extremely reliable, and the performance numbers are there.
If you don't believe that, here are user benchmarks.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-vs-AMD-RX-480/3639vs3634
 
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