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After about 10 years on my first build, it's time to upgrade. This is what I'm looking at for my next build. I have a few concerns.

First I'm concerned with the Cryorig H5 Ultimate. I'm concerned it will not fit with my RAM / motherboard / case combination. I have searched for a while now and have not been able to find anything confirming that it will fit with this combo. I believe it will cover the first DIMM slot, but I should be able to plug my DIMMS into A_2 and B_2. I plan on adding a 2nd fan to the Cryorig H5. Would it be worth going with the Cryorig H7 for the clearance on all DIMM slots?

Then, with M.2, I'm afraid I won't be able to use SATA express anymore? I would be limited to SATA III 6GB/s if I ever need to add another SSD? Would this be a bottleneck? Is there any way around this?

Also, I went with a better timing on the RAM, that is not listed as compatible with my MOBO. Should I be concerned about this, even though very similar timings are listed as compatible?

Finally, with this configuration, would my graphics card still be running in PCIe 3.0 x16 mode?

Any comments, suggestions, or potential flaws with my build that you point out will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QPntJ

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CRYORIG H5 Ultimate
Asus Z170-PRO ATX
G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
NZXT Noctis 450 ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

 
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Yeah you can easily get an X99 setup on $2500, and most mid range X99 motherboards actually aren't that much more expensive than their Z170 counterparts. Having the extra cores and more RAM readily available will be an asset if you plan to go with 4K or VR which I would do if I spent that kind of money on a system. I would suggest doing more research.

I would do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.12 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.64 @ Amazon)...
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First I'm concerned with the Cryorig H5 Ultimate. I'm concerned it will not fit with my RAM / motherboard / case combination. I have searched for a while now and have not been able to find anything confirming that it will fit with this combo. I believe it will cover the first DIMM slot, but I should be able to plug my DIMMS into A_2 and B_2. I plan on adding a 2nd fan to the Cryorig H5. Would it be worth going with the Cryorig H7 for the clearance on all DIMM slots?
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The fan doesn't have to align directly with the heat sink. I have that same combination with an R1 and I have to have my fan sit a bit higher and that clears it just fine. I just got my Trident Z today and the heat sinks aren't super tall on them compared to some but you should be fine nonetheless.

That setup looks pretty solid - I might actually drop the 512GB M2 to a 256GB and a less expensive motherboard, then upgrade to the 6800K instead of the 6700K. What is your budget?
 
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You would need to get a much more expensive mobo because you need a X99 chipset. I don't know if I would do this.
 
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My budget is around $2500, with a $500 monitor, so about $2000. But changing from 6700k to 6800k means going for the X99. I will consider doing a build with X99 chipset and compare them.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($150.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2103.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-25 18:32 EDT-0400

Its $100 over budget, but it will get you a whole lot of performance, 60fps+ 4K ultra (in games that support SLI) and around 45 in those that don't.
 
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Yeah you can easily get an X99 setup on $2500, and most mid range X99 motherboards actually aren't that much more expensive than their Z170 counterparts. Having the extra cores and more RAM readily available will be an asset if you plan to go with 4K or VR which I would do if I spent that kind of money on a system. I would suggest doing more research.

I would do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.12 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.64 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($293.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2001.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-25 18:43 EDT-0400

That's only $2 over budget and you get all the latest tech - an M2 nVME drive, 6 core CPU, and leaves the option open for SLI which you can get the second card later as you see fit.
 
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I think this is a great build, but mine is focused on SLI-ing right now and yours is more work-station based. and your X99 board is $150 more expensive than a Asus Z170-A.
 
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Again, do more research. Just because a system has X99 does not mean that it is more "workstation based". Sure, tyhat is correct that X99 is marketed toward enthusiast users and enterprise more than the average user and gamer (which is why the i7-6950X is priced out of most people's budgets). However, that doesn't stop companies like MSI and Asus from putting out gamer-oriented X99 motherboards. Can you game on X99? Absolutely. Is it better to game on Z170? Probably, but having more cores for VR applications is what I would go for on that budget. Xeons and Quaddros are more workstation hardware than anything I have in this build. Look at it this way - the minimum CPU requirement for Oculus / Vive, and most 4K titles is a 4th generation quad core i5/i7 (i5-4590) and 16GB of RAM. So a sixth generation i5/i7 is better, but a six core i7 would be the best. You don't necessarily need more cores but it helps. Not all games scale to SLI accordingly. On $2K or more I'd rather have a stronger CPU and have the option open for SLI than to have 2 cards in SLI out of the box. You also don't know how SLI will scale until you get your monitor.
 
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@OP, here is your build, i've also included a 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor which should be great for you.
Gives identical performance for the most part compared to G-Unit's build the RAM speed and excessive SSD. ^.^
The exception of hile coming in $300 cheaper for the actual PC and giving an additional 1TB of HDD space.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($368.82 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($225.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor ($549.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2286.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-25 19:57 EDT-0400
 
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I'll agree with that, but if you have SLI in mind I would take the extra PCI lanes over not having them any day of the week. You can argue some forms of storage are more overkill than others. There's no way I'd use an Intel 750 for a gaming PC sure but I'd definitely take an M2 drive over just about anything else.
 
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