Is it worth buying OC version of ASUS ROG 1070 8GB?

Andriokz

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Someone told me the premium wasn't worth the OCed version since Nvidia GPU boost could get it to around the same performance; is there truth to this?
 
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MSI are fairly new to put out great cards, maybe i'm just having a fanboy moment, but EVGA and ASUS are more well established and have a good rep. Nothing wrong with MSI though.

Of the GPUs you chose, probably the EVGA one is best - although they would all be pretty close, and the ASUS one last. Just in terms of stability over time (and this is like, a minor difference in terms of real performance), the EVGA one has an 8+8 pin PCI-e connector, compared to 6+8 for the MSi, and just 8 for the ASUS. This means the power supply can deliver much more power to the card, and less of a strain on the PCI-e port.

That realistically is the...

Tradesman1

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All depends on the individual ;) Many if not most, get the pre OCed cards, others go with more of a stock clock and see what they can do as far as OCing. Often I suggest looking to get the rest of the components and see how the budget is and how much you can spend
 

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Tradesman1 is pretty right. But really any overclock will get you at most a 10fps increase. At least thats going from the Founders Edition card to the Hybrid EVGA card, which is water-cooled. (abeit by an AIO), You can pretty much overclock any video card quite easily, so if you are on a budget, just go for a reference card. However the big difference in what people buy is a better cooler. Stuff like the ASUS DirectCU II cooler (or whatever) is much more quieter and more efficient than a reference (stock) cooler. Check out this funky video by jay for more info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiM2kwBL__U .

p.s. Nvidia boost, although it has gotten better still isn't as good as a manual overclock. jay also has a tute for that.
 

Tradesman1

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Boost is integral to the GPU, taking it above and beyond it's base clock, it still is there in the PRe OCed models and if you OC it's still there. GPUs are the same as CPUs, all are individual, i.e. some 1080 GPUs OC great others not really, so one advantage of a Pre OCed card is you know it's guaranteed to run up to at least the Pre OC that you don't have getting a reference card
 

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After building the system on parts picker, It's a toss up between the ASUS ROG 1070, EVGA FTW 1070, and the MSI Gaming X/Z or Armor edition. I'm just not sure if pre OC cards are any different in the sense that the non OCed versions are incapable of reaching the same clock because of something the manufactuer did, or just a glorified gimmick. If that isn't the case then really my choice will just come down to temps.
 

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Out of curiosity, why not MSI? I've had one for the past 3 or 4 years (R7970 Lightning). I have a chance to get a Gaming Z for less than the other two option
 

Tradesman1

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That's just me...When we lay out client builds on mobos I'll only build on GB, Asus and the Rock, then with GPUs I look to EVGA and Asus first for nVidia cards (and normally go one or the other), for AMD GPUs will look to Asus and GB cards first. I myself am not a big fan of MSI due to their poor QC on mobos, haven't really seen a lot of problems with their GPUs, and have used some of their cards, just not a primary choice for me
 

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All 1080 models pretty much overclock to the same level. Usually you would be right though, but now the limiting factor in overclocks is power delivery. Pre-overclocked cards aren't actually overclocked by that much. Boost isn't integral to a GPU, more like a feature. GPUs certainly are most not like CPUs at all.

As I said however, you are paying the premium for an RoG GPU (I think the Strix?) for the cooler and better power delivery, there is much more to a GPUs performance than just the core clock speed.

Going back to the topic, cards by EVGA and ASUS are very good. Look for a card that has had heaps of reviews to find out the experience that people have had, however going with EVGA or ASUS they won't let you down.
 

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Yeah, it was the Strix. I appreciate the input, I actually haven't seen anyone recommend MSI yet.
 

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MSI are fairly new to put out great cards, maybe i'm just having a fanboy moment, but EVGA and ASUS are more well established and have a good rep. Nothing wrong with MSI though.

Of the GPUs you chose, probably the EVGA one is best - although they would all be pretty close, and the ASUS one last. Just in terms of stability over time (and this is like, a minor difference in terms of real performance), the EVGA one has an 8+8 pin PCI-e connector, compared to 6+8 for the MSi, and just 8 for the ASUS. This means the power supply can deliver much more power to the card, and less of a strain on the PCI-e port.

That realistically is the only difference between the cards. All of them have great coolers (The ACX by EVGA is my fav, keeps it toe-to-toe with the hybrid cards) and RGB lighting, and fantastic designs. All will serve you very well.

 
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