"Unable to run overclock" error at boot!

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Ok i summed this up to a possible fan error... as I got it to boot, but this happened after a power failure. I tried to boot a second time after checking the overclock settings in bios it would not boot. The power had been out for a while and it was 80 degrees in the house, but that had never been an issue before.... as to overheating the machine barely started before it gave the error at post.

I am hoping nothing important in my machine got fried as if it did I am screwed... I did notices my fan took a bit to spin up which could be the problem, and I do have ignore fan speed off due to a complication with that.

I guess what I am wanting to know is if anyone knows what caused this...

My system information is below. I will post if i notice anything else I am looking up for some system stat programs I can find....
 

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update... I have not found any motherboard errors (I am glad of that) so far... seems that the SPU fan works nominally I did however increase it's base speed from 500 at an idle state to 700....

I am still perplexed as to what caused the motherboard issue other than possible CMOS setting I am unaware of being changed (though I did not change any back.) Someone mentioned on another thread overcharged RAM (due to the power outage, which kinda went on and off several times (I think it is time to get a PSU))

If the CPU were bad it would not work to run windows at all.... if the RAM were messed up in any way the same... plus I would get funny beeps at post...
 
Did you just have a power outage at your location that shut your PC off? Following this, the first boot gave you the error? I know ASUS boards can give you OC error warnings following POST if the boot sequence is interrupted for some reason, or the power button is pressed.

A power surge or brownout can damage parts, but that doesn't sound like what your describing. A bad CPU would cause your system not to POST at all. Fan speeds can also vary on idle based on ambient temperature as well. Also, if your motherboard does not have an onboard system speaker, or one isn't installed in your case, you would get no beeps. Not sure what this "overcharged RAM" story is about.
 

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yes the power shut off the computer then while the pc was off it fluctuated on and off (though the computer was already off...)

The first boot gave me the error yes the second no error started to boot to windows then shut down...

Well I set the minimum fan speed for my Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo to 700ish before it was around 500...

Yeah I was worried it fried something.... I do not mind replacing the machine, but why when it runs good as it is....


Someone said something like they had a power outage and it overcharged their ram or some crap... maybe they were overclocking their RAM. I tried that once was too much trouble.

As to it having an internal speaker... the ASUS Z77 I have does not do a RAM count I would see it as I have 32 gig... By internal speaker do you mean like the one on the soundboard on the motherboard? I know that works, if there is one that only beeps I do not know... I used software from ASUS to check the CPU temps and speed all seem good though.

I think it is what you said the ASUS motherboard, just not sure why it crashed at boot into windows 10 the second time.... I have never had it crash into windows 10.
 
Well, it could just be because of the power off/power on from the the utility power acting up, and Windows 10 not being shut down properly. Possibly being tied in with hybrid sleep from a normal shutdown vs. traditional way with Windows 7 and older. Regarding speaker, either a case will have one wired on somewhere, and it attached to the front panel IO headers on the motherboard. If not, some motherboards(mainly OEM machines) still have a tiny speaker soldered onto board, black in color. These are where the "beeps" come from during POST or for debug purposes. The onboard audio for your motherboard for speakers/headphones is different.

With all this said, since the error occurred and the fan speed anomaly, has your system been running fine? If so, I really wouldn't worry about it unless other issues crop up. Still best to keep an eye on the fan though to see if the situation changes.
 

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yeah I have not run a game for long yet, but I would figure if it were really messed up it would not like running deus ex Mankind Divided for too long.... Also the Motherboard software shows the processor speed fluctuation and its temps seem normal... I will let you know if it acts funky again...
 

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Ok I got a warning from the software that my CPU was 61C is that high? I guess what is high for a Sandy Bridge that is overclocked? is there anything wrong with keeping my fan at high settings all the time?

When running Deus Ex Mankind Divided is 60c high?
 
You can keep your fan on high if you choose, just extra noise and may lower lifespan a bit, though likely you'll upgrade before it becomes a problem. Regarding CPU 61C, that sounds high from software warning, especially from a game. The software here isn't reading the actual core temps but a package temp I believe. What are your actual core temps? I'd use CoreTemp or RealTemp to check.
 

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right now it runs at 37 - 40c at desktop.... with my adjusted fan settings at 900rpm at idel and 40c it goes to 1200rpm then 50 it goes to 1700 I have never seen it go above 50c in game often stays in the 40c-50c range
 

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What CPU do you got, 61 shouldn't be to hot most CPU's can run from 62 or more up to a max of around 68-70C. There for the PC shutting off and not turning on can be due to a unsuccessful OC, If that happens and it wont turn back on reset the CMOS to do that

1: Take out the MOBO battery
2: wait 5-10 seconds
3: Put it back in

If that dont work the MOBO, CPU, or PSU can be fried.

If you believe it is due to ram take 1 out keep how ever many you got in, and do that to all of them, if it boots with the one in you're hand out its you're RAM.

As far as a 37-40C idle that is pretty decent dont worry about that although the RPM of that fan is a little high if i were you i would buy a new Heat-Sink, a good budget one is a Hyper 212 Evo, a good expensive one is a Noctua NH-D15 SSO2 although they are HUGE.

CPU Fluctuating is normal as well all CPU's will do that, now if it does it while gaming from lets say 3.6 GHz to 2.1 GHz or something there is a issue, and to maybe fix that what i did was replace the CPU and Heat-Sink, if that dont work i would recommend replacing it with a new CPU due to the fact that it is a faulty CPU.

If you got you're machine running after that OC everything of course is fine, but if not i would suggest finding a CPU laying around and put that into you're machine, if it dont work you could have fried the MOBO CPU socket, but dont stop there check ram by like i said above taking a piece out and trying to boot and keep doing that to each stick to see if it will work with one out, if not try 1 at a time, still if not check you're GPU, to do so take it out and use the Integrated graphics if you got it, if not and you have a GPU laying around put that GPU in you're machine, if it still dont work then check the PSU if it still dont work then you know for sure you're MOBO has gotten fried and you will need to order a new one or use one laying around somewhere.

Error at boot can also mean the MOBO is not a great OC'ing MOBO because my old M2N68-AM SE2 would only be able to do a 7 percent OC and nothing more, anything more will give me a OC'ing Error.
 

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nah the 1700 I forced... in games the heats starts low then goes up the most I have seen it is around 60.. i will try it again...

as to the error I have looked it up after a power outage Asus motherboards can do that... next machine I build may not have an Asus...
 

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well now I just came back from being afk and the computer was at standby... it may have always done this but when i come back the fan was at 500rpms and the cpu was at 73... how is this... even with modest fan settings this should not be happening...

I will admit it may have always done this and I never noticed as I did not have this thermal radar in for that long but I am not sure how 73 at standby is possible unless it is a program error on standby.
 

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well that is the thing I am not sure it is anything other than the fan.... 73c was when coming back from standby, but the fan was at 20% I reinstalled the OS and I may start turning off my computer when not in use....

As to the fan itself I do not know how to set it to self adjust in BIOS it has an option to set turn to max settings, but it does not when I temperature tested it with Prime95... it went to 78c without boosting over 800 rpm... Right now my solution is to leave it on max all the time it will stay cold at 1700 to 1800rpms, but may burn up the fan.... that is my concern...

I am not worried about the noise... I just want to save the fan and processor... My processor is a 2600k I7 and I have a socket that will be hard to find a CPU to replace, that will mean, new OS, New motherboard, and a pain in my bottom :(.
 

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What Heatsink are you using? If stock get aftermarket Cooler cause stock Heatsinks are horrible.
 

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I know its aftermarket, i was saying it could be the fan on the EVO (Stock Fan) or it can be the CPU itself.