need help on getting a new psu

Ancient_2 · Aug 27, 2016

Power supply unit (320 W), EPA 90% efficiency, 12 V dc output is what i have now its absolute <mod edit>

im trying to get a gtx 950 2gb

does my psu support?

whats the cheapest one that has the cords and the outage?

im on a $175 budget and 150 is already up

Thanks and good day

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JohnBonhamsGhost · Aug 27, 2016

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

weberdarren97 · Aug 27, 2016

JohnBonhamsGhost :

The Tom's Hardware PSU Tier List 2.0 thread is a little outdated... Actually a lot outdated. However, it still gives users a general idea of which brands are higher and lower quality.

For a GTX 950 and a single CPU, I would recommend one of these.

OP, any power supply that can be had for $25 will be such low quality that it will probably damage your internals within a month or two. The power supply is what supplies power to the internals, and it's important that this power is steady and stable. If voltages are too high or too low, or they vary during use, then your components are likely suffering damage from the voltage input.

My brother had an incident where his hard drive failed. He only had one backup. He put that backup in the machine and that drive then failed. So I took a multimeter to the power supply to find that it was putting out almost 19V on the 12V connectors. Basically, his power supply killed two hard drives and caused him to lose all of his data, even though he had it backed up.

Please consider a higher quality power supply.

azaran · Aug 27, 2016

That power supply sounds suspiciously like a Dell or other prebuilt. Is it? If so what model, because depending on the build you may have have to find a very specific PSU to replace it.

JohnBonhamsGhost · Aug 27, 2016

weberdarren97 :

the thread is constantly updated with specifics for almost every model available and for any specific models users have any questions about. check the last 20+ pages, it is an ongoing process. the first page is not the entire thread.

turkey3_scratch · Aug 27, 2016

weberdarren97 :

JohnBonhamsGhost :

The Tom's Hardware PSU Tier List 2.0 thread is a little outdated... Actually a lot outdated. However, it still gives users a general idea of which brands are higher and lower quality.

For a GTX 950 and a single CPU, I would recommend one of these.

OP, any power supply that can be had for $25 will be such low quality that it will probably damage your internals within a month or two. The power supply is what supplies power to the internals, and it's important that this power is steady and stable. If voltages are too high or too low, or they vary during use, then your components are likely suffering damage from the voltage input.

My brother had an incident where his hard drive failed. He only had one backup. He put that backup in the machine and that drive then failed. So I took a multimeter to the power supply to find that it was putting out almost 19V on the 12V connectors. Basically, his power supply killed two hard drives and caused him to lose all of his data, even though he had it backed up.

Please consider a higher quality power supply.

That's not possible, overvoltage protection would kick in.

azaran · Aug 27, 2016

turkey3_scratch :

weberdarren97 :

That's not possible, overvoltage protection would kick in.

Assuming the overvoltage worked properly. I've personally watched two hard drives give up the magic smoke due to a PSU throwing too much juice at it. That was the point where the shop I worked at "retired" that PSU.

Ancient_2 · Aug 27, 2016

ugh guys i need a cheap one i can shell out $50-60 max please give me something to work with here\

i work at mc donalds for gods sake

weberdarren97 · Aug 27, 2016

turkey3_scratch :

Would it help if I added that there was audible arking sound when I jump started it?

turkey3_scratch · Aug 27, 2016

JohnBonhamsGhost :

weberdarren97 :

the thread is constantly updated with specifics for almost every model available and for any specific models users have any questions about. check the last 20+ pages, it is an ongoing process. the first page is not the entire thread.

No it's not.

Ancient_2 · Aug 27, 2016

also yes its from a pre bulit because i bought it with a i5 2500 for $50
hp compaq 6200 pro micro tower

turkey3_scratch · Aug 27, 2016

azaran :

turkey3_scratch :

Assuming the overvoltage worked properly. I've personally watched two hard drives give up the magic smoke due to a PSU throwing too much juice at it. That was the point where the shop I worked at "retired" that PSU.

That'd probably be a case where undervoltage protection would be needed, not overvoltage. And UVP is not required like OVP is.

@Web: Well, if your PC was actually working I won't believe it. If nothing was working then I could maybe believe it.

azaran · Aug 27, 2016

turkey3_scratch :

azaran :

That'd probably be a case where undervoltage protection would be needed, not overvoltage. And UVP is not required like OVP is.

@Web: Well, if your PC was actually working I won't believe it. If nothing was working then I could maybe believe it.

Good to know. I'd always assumed it was the case of an over voltage issue all these years.

lfkfkfkffs · Aug 28, 2016

If you have a full sized desktop just get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= it will handle a gtx 950 just fine.

Also like how people went off on other stuff without recommending one yet = D

Ancient_2 · Aug 28, 2016

lfkfkfkffs :

hey thanks buts its a mircotower would it work?

and is it compatible with a Hewlett-Packard 1497

azaran · Aug 28, 2016

Ancient_2 :

So here's the deal with your system. It uses a property PSU. Part number 613764-001 if you feel like looking it up. It doesn't look like there are any higher power replacements for that PSU. So I think you're stuck with what you have.

After looking around some threads, it looks like people have managed to get a 750ti to work with your system. So it "should" work, provided you pick a model that only pulls power from the PCIe slot and not through a cable connection. There are some gtx 950 models that only go off the PCIe slots power, like this one that "might" work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126100&cm_re=gtx_950_2gb-_-14-126-100-_-Product
It only pulling about 15w more than the 750ti so your system might be able to handle it. I don't know what the power cap is for your model so I cant say for sure beyond a hopeful "might".

azaran · Aug 28, 2016

Ancient_2 :

Nope, its a normal ATX PSU. You can't fit one of those in your microtower.

lfkfkfkffs · Aug 28, 2016

http://www.microcenter.com/product/457439/350_Watt_TFX_Power_Supply is what would fit in your system from microcenter. Not a good idea though.

Ancient_2 · Aug 28, 2016

azaran :

Ancient_2 :

So here's the deal with your system. It uses a property PSU. Part number 613764-001 if you feel like looking it up. It doesn't look like there are any higher power replacements for that PSU. So I think you're stuck with what you have.

After looking around some threads, it looks like people have managed to get a 750ti to work with your system. So it "should" work, provided you pick a model that only pulls power from the PCIe slot and not through a cable connection. There are some gtx 950 models that only go off the PCIe slots power, like this one that "might" work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126100&cm_re=gtx_950_2gb-_-14-126-100-_-Product
It only pulling about 15w more than the 750ti so your system might be able to handle it. I don't know what the power cap is for your model so I cant say for sure beyond a hopeful "might".

well whats the best 750ti ? that would work with the system?

or should i just scarp it for the cpu?

lfkfkfkffs · Aug 28, 2016

Just pull your whole system and bring it over to a new case and power supply. It can be done just from microcenter parts for under $70

azaran · Aug 28, 2016

Ancient_2 :

azaran :

well whats the best 750ti ? that would work with the system?

or should i just scarp it for the cpu?

You could do as Ifkfkfkffs said and move it in to a new case and get a proper PSU. The process will cost more overall but you'll have a normal system at that point and not have to worry about proprietary stuff. Your motherboard looks like its an m-ATX motherboard so a normal case will do the trick.

Ancient_2 · Aug 28, 2016

ugh i really dont have that kind of money but if you cant answer this @azaran then ill guess il just save up

what is the most stable 750ti that would work i want to compare the performance to the 950 if its not worth then ill just save up

Ancient_2 · Aug 28, 2016

oh and its not worth psu and case
recommendations?

lfkfkfkffs · Aug 28, 2016

It would be about $73 with tax and $63 if you mail in the rebate http://www.microcenter.com/product/465462/450B_450W_80_Bronze_ATX_Power_Supply http://www.microcenter.com/product/408589/VSK-3000E_MicroATX_Case

azaran · Aug 28, 2016

I think for a 750ti this would be your best bet
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125680&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Whatever card you put in there will have to be low profile and low power. Its a hard combo to find.

In all honesty, long term, a build in to a case you like with a good power supply will lead to a better gaming experience. When you do an eventual upgrade you can just deal with it like a normal human instead of jumping through HP's nonesense. But it is more expensive and if budget is tight... well might be eaiser to deal with the video card now and plan for an system rebuild when you can budget for it.

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