Can the evega Nvidia Gtx 1060 SC fit a BTX 0CT103 Dell Motherboard?

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I'm planning to put in a new graphics card on a dell dimension e521. So I am thinking of getting a Nvidia gtx 1060 sc since have the top of the line amd athlon 64 x2 6000 3.0 Ghz L2 cache proccesor but then I just realized the the vrm heatsink is located the front side of the 16x16 pci-e slot. I don't know really know if it gonna fit because I already have graphic card the have a length of 5.9 inches (the nvidia is 6.8 inches in lenght )and I can see it's really close to the vrm. The majority of the problem what I see isn't really the length it's the width since it take more infront since it will be placed in the opposite orientation because it's btx motherboard. I don't have the card yet but I really want to know if it's gonna fit before I buy it. Can it fit?
 

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Yeah I know but it's totally better than the graphic card that have now and the cpu really won't bottle neck because my type of games need more gpu power instead of cpu power. Amazingly even though the cpu is really old it handle games pretty decently the only reason I'm actually considering upgrade the graphic card is because I see that when set my game resolution to maximum setting it actually performs better(60 fps-37 fps in 4k) then just having lower resolution (1080 full hd 37-40 fps). Right now even though the cpu is bottleneck the gpu struggles with rendering the objects in the game because it runs at 60 fps but it lowers down to 30 fps when there's a lot of object presented. Which in dolphin emulator (playing wii games) the audio starts sounding crap and it kinda freezes. The I know the cpu handle my games (it should anyway because it requires a dual-core and dolphin only uses 2 cores and my is clocked at 3.1Ghz (I did overclocking on it). So it should run way better even though it the is a bottle neck. Thanks for answering my question but I'm gonna take the risk not fitting because either I can take a piece of metal off the vrm heatsink even though that good to do so. I want to finised my project of upgrading by doing that because I hadn't seen anyone do that anywhere in the internet. I just have to do a lot case. I am almost there to those 60 fps.
 
well...from my experience i have seen that bottlenecking is subjective to an extent...but it is a reality more often than not...if ur supporting infrastructure is that exceptional, then it might hold its own at times...but again its subjective...
u can try it out, but it would be a wise thing to upgrade ur cpu/mobo for a 1060 rather than trying to achieve the improbable...
 

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well...from my experience i have seen that bottlenecking is subjective to an extent...but it is a reality more often than not...if ur supporting infrastructure is that exceptional, then it might hold its own at times...but again its subjective...
u can try it out, but it would be a wise thing to upgrade ur cpu/mobo for a 1060 rather than trying to achieve the improbable...

I wish I could upgrade even more faster cpu but that motherboard maximum capacity with that processor it not desinged to go more. I mean there's cpu that could on that motherboard that is even faster but it runs 3.2 Ghz (which doesn't make a difference) at 150 watts which could lead to a motherboard failure because that motherboard is designed to handle a 80 watts cpu. So I'm sol in that option because not yet gonna change the motherboard. My plan is to gather new parts of the old pc to the a new motherboard to when I have the money to buy a new msi motherboard because I found motherboard(the motherboard is really cheap, cheaper the dell motherboard I have) has am3 sockets but is backwards compatible am2 so I can the same cpu I'm using currently right and then when I save up a black edition 8 core processor. The new msi motherboard supports up to 8 cores which awesome and they are really cheap about only 153 usd. Think about the only thing I lose is the ram sticks because the msi motherboard only support ddr3 not ddr2. All I have to buy the ram sticks only cost 20 usd.So I will still have the gpu, the cpu, 600 watts power supply, and the samsung 850 evo 500 gb with the sata 3 6gb cable and ssd cage. In the long run if I do this way it will safe me a lot money because right now I can't really afford to buy everything single computer components all at once. If I do like that it will cost almost about 2,000 usd for the things that I want which isn't option for me(I want no compromise when spending on a new computer). So I'm gonna have to do this because I'm really wants those 60 fps all the time.
 

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not all cpus are going to comply with ur motherboard...the socket architecture has to match...have u taken that into account???

I meant the cpu amd athlon 64 x2 6300 3.2Ghz could run run in the 0CT103 dell motherboard because it's the same architecture and I saw someone run it on that same motherboard. What I'm saying is that I'm not buying that cpu because it's gonna to ruin the motherboard that currently have right now. The msi motherboard is compatible with that architecture the athlon x2 but it has am3 socket but it's compatible am2 plus I saw also someone implent the cpu that is the same architecture and literally ran with no problem.
 
then you got to know for dang sure that the dell bios is compatible for the newer cards [ a lot are not and cn only support 700 series and below if lucky]

not worth the risk in any way I never recommend upgrades on most prebuilts too easy to be left holding the bag
 

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then you got to know for dang sure that the dell bios is compatible for the newer cards [ a lot are not and cn only support 700 series and below if lucky]

not worth the risk in any way I never recommend upgrades on most prebuilts too easy to be left holding the bag

It should work because the dell motherboard has pci-e 3.0 16x16 obviously the bios supports any graphic that use 3.0. I mean there's is motherboards that only have 2.0 pci-e which a older version pci-e and they are supported also. I mean this isn't the only BTX motherboard that was modified to have dual slot graphic like the nvidia gtx 1060. The only difference that I seen on other btx motherboard is that the vrm heatsink are located more near up to the ram sticks and the cpu heatsink which is easy to install any graphic card. Plus if doesn't work I'll just return it and I don't lose money and they don't lose money either. But that most likely won't happen.
 
'' It should work because the dell motherboard has pci-e 3.0 16x16 obviously the bios supports any graphic that use 3.0. I mean there's is motherboards that only have 2.0 pci-e which a older version pci-e and they are supported also. I mean this isn't the only BTX motherboard that was modified to have dual slot graphic like the nvidia gtx 1060. The only difference that I seen on other btx motherboard is that the vrm heatsink are located more near up to the ram sticks and the cpu heatsink which is easy to install any graphic card. Plus if doesn't work I'll just return it and I don't lose money and they don't lose money either. But that most likely won't happen. ''

that guy aint got a clue

just because it got a slot don't mean its compatible.. them prebuilts have proprietary bios's and then may not be full uefi that's required on nviidia cards some 700 series and all 900 and up .

too many guys go for the ''well its got a pci-e slot '' crap when I fact its the motherboards bios and no update for them to support newer cards if any cards for that matter .

my old paste disclaimer

some models of store bought computers [dell.hp,acer,ect..] may come with a ''locked or fixed'' bios and may not allow you to change certain hardware as a video card.. this is done to protect them from undue warranty claims and refunds .this is not done to hurt you but to protect them. you really need to see if that upgrade has been proven to work in your model first before you invest money in it .. there are a lot of these threads here at toms to look at some models will allow upgrades and some dont.. and a lot of guys here say ya ya ya when is really no no no...it would be sad you spent $200 on a card that wount post after you installed it as most find out. then get told its your psu and you spend more and end up right back where you are now, but its up to you good luck..


you got to know the the boards in these computers are not like the ones we use to do custom builds witch are open to upgrading with in the boards compatibly . the bios is custom made for there design and just for the parts they authorize to be used on there computers there only guaranteed to work as is out of the box as you bought it ,..


also these boards do not have to meet atx standards and there pci-e slot power may not do the required 75w needed for most higher end cards and can be limited to say 45 or 60w that is all thats needed with the low end factory oem cards that it may of shipped with



so even with all that it could be just certin low powered / model cards approved will only work - nothing is just plug and play as like our custom builds and now that's not even guaranteed today

 

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A 750ti won't fullfill my needs in gaming performance and especially that it 750ti 104.99 usd it's kinda of useless for me because I already spend 100 usd on nvidia gt 740 2gb graphic card (It was because the older graphic card broke on me that made had to buy gt 740). I won't spend another 104 usd on just get 200 mhz more of performance. If I'm gonna spend money I might as well have a good gaming graphics card like the nvidia gtx 1060 sc. Anyways I know the is gonna be worth much but that why I'm not planning to sell any time soon. Like I said what I'm thinking of doing is when I have enough money for the motherboard, ram,cpu and a case then I don't have to buy, power supply, ssd, sata 3 6gb cable,water cooling kit (I forgot to mention that earlier) and a Nvidia gtx 1060 sc that I can just transfer it to the new motherboard. Plus it will be cool to see a classic pc being extremely revive I actually want to see what motherboard can handle since there's no one in the internet anything extreme like that before I dump it and then just buy the new motherboard. Also it's not like the graphic card is going to be there in that crappy motherboard forever
 

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' It should work because the dell motherboard has pci-e 3.0 16x16 obviously the bios supports any graphic that use 3.0. I mean there's is motherboards that only have 2.0 pci-e which a older version pci-e and they are supported also. I mean this isn't the only BTX motherboard that was modified to have dual slot graphic like the nvidia gtx 1060. The only difference that I seen on other btx motherboard is that the vrm heatsink are located more near up to the ram sticks and the cpu heatsink which is easy to install any graphic card. Plus if doesn't work I'll just return it and I don't lose money and they don't lose money either. But that most likely won't happen. ''

that guy aint got a clue

just because it got a slot don't mean its compatible.. them prebuilts have proprietary bios's and then may not be full uefi that's required on nviidia cards some 700 series and all 900 and up .

too many guys go for the ''well its got a pci-e slot '' crap when I fact its the motherboards bios and no update for them to support newer cards if any cards for that matter .

my old paste disclaimer

some models of store bought computers [dell.hp,acer,ect..] may come with a ''locked or fixed'' bios and may not allow you to change certain hardware as a video card.. this is done to protect them from undue warranty claims and refunds .this is not done to hurt you but to protect them. you really need to see if that upgrade has been proven to work in your model first before you invest money in it .. there are a lot of these threads here at toms to look at some models will allow upgrades and some dont.. and a lot of guys here say ya ya ya when is really no no no...it would be sad you spent $200 on a card that wount post after you installed it as most find out. then get told its your psu and you spend more and end up right back where you are now, but its up to you good luck..


you got to know the the boards in these computers are not like the ones we use to do custom builds witch are open to upgrading with in the boards compatibly . the bios is custom made for there design and just for the parts they authorize to be used on there computers there only guaranteed to work as is out of the box as you bought it ,..


also these boards do not have to meet atx standards and there pci-e slot power may not do the required 75w needed for most higher end cards and can be limited to say 45 or 60w that is all thats needed with the low end factory oem cards that it may of shipped with



so even with all that it could be just certin low powered / model cards approved will only work - nothing is just plug and play as like our custom builds and now that's not even guaranteed today

Dude I don't know what Dell Motherboards you have encountered with but mines hadn't had a problem upgrading to any graphic card previously and I upgraded 4 times already. I'm pretty sure mine is compatible and that's not always true it doesn't have to be uefi bios type of system in order to dectect the graphic card. Many people have has put a high end graphic card on btx motherboard that has basic bois system. I don't where you buy your graphics card but where buy it they allow to return for refunds as long as the graphic card isn't damage or tampered. A lot people do it otherwise no one would buy from that store.
 

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I don't know how this went from if the graphics card fit on it to if it's compatible. What's funny about this conversation reminds of the time I was choosing ram for this same motherboard and most people said if your using ddr2 ram 800 mhz then most likely it will underclock to 667MHz to what the motherboard can handle and only 1% of motherboards support 800 Mhz at ddr2 but guess what. I bought the 800Mhz ram anyways and when I got and installed it I went directly to bios and checked the ram frequency and turns I was full 800Mhz not 667MHz. It literally had no problems also. Well I guess my motherboard is the 1% right. Anyways I'm gonna buy that Nvidia gtx 1060 sc and that's final. I tell you guys if it works when I get the chance to buy it.