best processor for intel chipset q57

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hi,I recently bought a pc which is hp elite 8100 tower. it has a i5 650@3.20 2 cores processor and it has 4mb cache.now i would like to upgrade to i7 please tell me a good i7 processor for it and also a graphic card.it has a built in psu of 375 watts.thanks in advance
 
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The elite 8100 is a small form factor, so gpu size will be limited. According to HP, the i7-870 is the biggest supported by the mobo, but at 2.93GHz, you'll be taking a small hit to single core performance, but with 8 thread capable this is somewhat alleviating in some games. It's biggest advantage is 4 physical cores over the i5's dual core+HT. This'll be better for games like GTA:V but still not an impressive upgrade.

Hardest part will be finding a gpu worthy of being an upgrade. The small form factor (sff) was designed around the smallest gpus physically so any upgrade will possibly have size restrictions.
http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c02030590-2

Those seem to be the configurations the model was initially built to accommodate. So the i7-870 seems to be the most powerful for it (making no claim to it being 'good').

In the case shown, I'm not sure what GPU you could fit into the case. However, seeing the PSU isn't large by normal gaming standards this would be my immediate concern.

For what purpose are you upgrading?
 

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i want to upgrade it for gaming.when i bought it i didn't know that it is a business pc.
i would like to play infinite war,black ops3 and gta 5 and other heavy games.
my current graphic card is nvidia geforce 210 by gigabyte and i want to upgrade it.so then i can have better gaming experience.i also researche about the i7 processor for my pc as it has intel q57 chipset and i found the intel i7 880 good but i dont about other factors like overclocking hyperthreading etc
 
Yeah, been there before with the work computer to gaming/all purpose computer upgrade.

Do you know what the motherboard is? The documentation I found makes no mention of it; knowing the motherboard will help in this process of component selection. Use something like Speccy for this information.

Having heard about HP PCs from someone I know, certain things may make it difficult to upgrade (again, case and PSU are the main limiting factors at the moment). Depending on various aspects it may be better to build a new PC depending on your budget. But let's check the possible upgrades first.
 
Hyperthreading obviously is supported, but you can't overclock that PC.
 

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I asked about the motherboard because sometimes the BIOS won't accept certain CPUs, but according to this http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/hewlett-packard-304bh-mainboard-cpu-support-list/ it should support the i7-880. If it doesn't support it natively, then it should after a BIOS update.

Here comes the consideration part: something like the GTX 1060 has a 400W PSU requirement.

The least power hungry card I know about is the GTX 750 ti as it doesn't require additional power cables. Plus, the size of the case is something which has to be considered and it seems to mean getting a low profile graphics card. This would immediately effect what you could expect from your games. If we stick to low profile cards for gaming, then only the GTX 750 ti and the RX 460 are contenders. There are models for both which are low profile and run off the PCI slot without additional power connectors.

Whether this will meet your gaming expectations is questionable. Ideally, transferring the motherboard to a new case (assuming all the mounting points conform to industry standards) would then give you far more upgrade options including PSU and GPU.

Anecdote: when I upgraded my pre-built study PC, the graphics card I bought was a bit too big. I had to buy a new case. Luckily the motherboard did conform to industry standards so transferred easily. I had to get a new PSU later as the old one popped (probably due to power demands). So be careful in your choice of components and how you go about the upgrade.
 

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i updated my bios now to .13 see below
http://prntscr.com/cdoka8
i think nvidia geforce gtx 750ti would work fine for me there is no problem for me but will it suits the casing and psu
if i want to buil a pc for gaming what parts do you recommend me
i always get confused about which lga socket and processor is best for gaming.
so please guide me about this.because i think that building a new pc is better than upgrading a hp elite 8100
 

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i can't understand what you are saying
 
Overclocking is a way of making the processor run faster than it normally would. By doing so, it can make the processor do more work and thus appear more powerful. This is achieved by supplying the processor with a bit more electricity and requires (1) a processor capable of being overclocked - modern processors, especially from Intel, tend to label these as 'unlocked', (2) a motherboard which is capable of overclocking, and (3) a high quality power supply unit for the extra electricity.

GhislainG brings up overclocking because it can be a way of getting more from a processor when processor upgrade paths are exhausted.

Browsing around, there seems to be two variants of your PC: two different cases - a Small Form Factor and a Convertible MiniTower. You mentioned 'tower' in your first post (the Convertible MiniTower I assume), which should allow a bit more room for a more standard sized card. Even something like http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-3751-KR should fit into it. I am wary of the length, as it could be a tight squeeze.

A safer option would be something like this Gigabyte low profile version of the GTX 750 ti: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5160#ov

Tried to find a low profile version of the RX 460 with no luck, and some threads seem to suggest the GTX 750 ti is the only option.

Check the dimensions of your case. The Convertible MiniTower should be able to accommodate most graphics cards (size wise) assuming they're not overly long (the problem I had, and even then it was the power cable more than anything else).
 

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The elite 8100 is a small form factor, so gpu size will be limited. According to HP, the i7-870 is the biggest supported by the mobo, but at 2.93GHz, you'll be taking a small hit to single core performance, but with 8 thread capable this is somewhat alleviating in some games. It's biggest advantage is 4 physical cores over the i5's dual core+HT. This'll be better for games like GTA:V but still not an impressive upgrade.

Hardest part will be finding a gpu worthy of being an upgrade. The small form factor (sff) was designed around the smallest gpus physically so any upgrade will possibly have size restrictions.
 
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