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Yero

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Lots of heavy design and some gaming build.
3D modeling,
3D Rendering,
Video Editing,
Superheavy Illustrator/Photoshop

Current choices:
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yero/saved/#view=Thbt6h

I need an advice on parts choice in general + specific ones listed below:

- I am least confident about RAM, as I know least about it.
- Also i7-6800 vs i7-6850 (something about lanes?)
- I never had a proper editing video card. I hope I can still game. Or will gtx 1080 do better?
- I am not sure about 1000 watts on the power supply.

Overclocking processor, memory, video card(?) - for the first time.
Parts list doesn't have a case because I am going to DIY wall-mount type thing.

What are your guys thoughts?
Thanks!
 
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Blas
You were asking about core i7 6800K vs 6850K and mentionned the lanes issue: just FYI: the i7 6800K is a Haswell part (same generation as the consumer core i7 4xxx), while the i7 6850K is a Broadwell part (as the i7 5xxx parts, so next generation). They are practically equal, except for some architectural tweaks, their speed (the 6850K is 200 MHz faster), and the number of PCIe lanes the CPU can use (40 vs 28). These lanes are used to transfer data from the GPU and most other add-in cards. For gamers who use more than one GPU, having 40 lanes instead of 28 is important because each GPU uses 16 lanes, so having 28 total lanes is not enough for two cards to stretch their legs fully, while 40 are. In your case, it would not matter much...
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Blas

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Seeing as you intend to use your computer for design mostly, so you need as many threads as possible for rendering, i recommend a read of these two articles:

http://www.techspot.com/review/1218-affordable-40-thread-xeon-monster-pc/
http://www.techspot.com/review/1155-affordable-dual-xeon-pc/

So instead of a 6 core / 12 thread beast with all the latest bells and whistles, you can also get a 20 cores / 40 threads machine of the previous generation Xeons (or 16 cores / 32 threads of the Xeons one further generation away, depending on your budget) provided you are OK with 2 trade-offs: buying the CPUs second hand (they would come from server farms, not from some individual, so they would have never been overclocked or treated badly), and not having the latest accesories (like M.2 drives or DDR4 memory).

I'm no expert in design, so i can't really give any opinion on your build besides the above, in any case good luck with it! :)
 
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Lodocarbo

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Well, for intense workloads like video editing and design threads will help you a lot but if you wanna still game go with an i7 6850k and for the RAM you want to look for the lowest CAS latency possible. If you want to run smooth design and rendering programs dont use GTX cards because some are not optimized at all and will cause issues and performance loss. Use Quadro M4000 card, if you cant afford a new, just get a used model, they tend do be very long lasting, and ypu can game (not AAA titles ofc). You wont need a more than 600w I think, but choose something like a 750w just in case

CPU: http://ark.intel.com/it/products/94188/Intel-Core-i7-6850K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz
RAM: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232203
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814132051&cm_re=nvidia_quadro_m4000-_-14-132-051-_-Product
PSU: http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/Comp4zw4ptvsu4/%7BMTI%7D?gclid=Cj0KEQjw0rm-BRCn85bm8uS-zK0BEiQAHo4vrGDNSMWCyTxxKHTTW1O7nKxQ_FP2nDwuheIm6mzzsO0aAnh38P8HAQ
 
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Blas

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It's the same card. Why do different stores set different prices? They surely have their reasons. Some sell a brand name, though in the case you picked that's not even it, so go wonder. Maybe when they re-stocked, prices were high, and since then they came down. But it's the exact same card. In this other store the same (altough the cards here are differently branded, they remain the same):

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8192MB-PNY-Quadro-M4000-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Bulk-_1013134.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8192MB-Fujitsu-Quadro-M4000-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1017107.html

Just the pick the cheapest one.
 
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Blas

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You were asking about core i7 6800K vs 6850K and mentionned the lanes issue: just FYI: the i7 6800K is a Haswell part (same generation as the consumer core i7 4xxx), while the i7 6850K is a Broadwell part (as the i7 5xxx parts, so next generation). They are practically equal, except for some architectural tweaks, their speed (the 6850K is 200 MHz faster), and the number of PCIe lanes the CPU can use (40 vs 28). These lanes are used to transfer data from the GPU and most other add-in cards. For gamers who use more than one GPU, having 40 lanes instead of 28 is important because each GPU uses 16 lanes, so having 28 total lanes is not enough for two cards to stretch their legs fully, while 40 are. In your case, it would not matter much.

For the rest, your build looks promisingly awesome! :)
 
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Yero

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Blas, Thanks a lot. It looks like the build is at a right place. It'll take me some time till I actually get every single component, so there is room to think. Looks ready though.

mitsoevo, I did not look at 15k instead of 7.2k hard drives because I didn't think I need to since most of design work is going to happen on SSD and then archived to bigger drives. I didn't think there is a need to be getting expensive/faster bigger drives + I heard those die faster because of their faster speeds.

Lodocarbo, I don't have a case on the list because like I mentioned in my first post I am going to DIY wall-mount type of set-up. For that same reason I thought water cooling would be a better idea, as there is going to be no air circulation with-in the case to help dissipate the heat of air-cooled unit.
 
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maybe switch one of them? since youre getting some games and things you'll go through storage faster than you think, it will also help for transfering archived files to an external drive if the external drive is pretty quick.

EDIT: it will also improve how fast you can transfer from ssd to hdd, its far quicker than a standard 7.2k
 
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