Why do experts say GTX 1070 is overkill for a 1080p 60Hz monitor?
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n0ns3ns3
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It's overkill because most games will run well above 60FPS.
In fact huge portion of games will run well over 100FPS maxed out.
And that not going to change significantly in the next couple of years.
So for 1080p@144Hz - GTX 1070 is awesome. But for 60Hz monitors that can display only 60FPS, it's an overkill.
In fact huge portion of games will run well over 100FPS maxed out.
And that not going to change significantly in the next couple of years.
So for 1080p@144Hz - GTX 1070 is awesome. But for 60Hz monitors that can display only 60FPS, it's an overkill.
Isokolon
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the question is, if you're not better off buying a 1060 now and in two years the 1160/1260
if you look at the 900/1000-series, the 1060 is as strong as the 980 for a third of it's original price
so if you went for the 980 and payed 600$, it would've been better off buying a 960 & a 1060 for 270 & 300
of course the GTX1070 will be able to provide better settings than the 1060 in 1-2 years
the question is if it's a better value than to max everything with the 1060 now and get a new card in 12-24 months
if you look at the 900/1000-series, the 1060 is as strong as the 980 for a third of it's original price
so if you went for the 980 and payed 600$, it would've been better off buying a 960 & a 1060 for 270 & 300
of course the GTX1070 will be able to provide better settings than the 1060 in 1-2 years
the question is if it's a better value than to max everything with the 1060 now and get a new card in 12-24 months
I would only agree with overkill statement if you planned to upgrade to a different card soon.
Otherwise, next closest is GTX 1060/6G for which you can already find games that can't sustain 1080p/60. That also greatly depends on games you play/plan to play.
So 1070 is certainly going to keep you on max longer, but it's difficult to predict if it will be able to do so 379/249 times longer than GTX 1060 to pay off (those are MSRP and ratio given by those of the two cards... apply actual price you can get... with this you'd want GTX 1070 endure about 1.5times longer than GTX 1060, for that _imho_ chances are you'll end up spending same "$ per day".
I'd recommend getting 1070.
Otherwise, next closest is GTX 1060/6G for which you can already find games that can't sustain 1080p/60. That also greatly depends on games you play/plan to play.
So 1070 is certainly going to keep you on max longer, but it's difficult to predict if it will be able to do so 379/249 times longer than GTX 1060 to pay off (those are MSRP and ratio given by those of the two cards... apply actual price you can get... with this you'd want GTX 1070 endure about 1.5times longer than GTX 1060, for that _imho_ chances are you'll end up spending same "$ per day".
I'd recommend getting 1070.
Jester Maroc
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The only time to consider getting the 1070 over the 1060 at 1080p would be if you plan on gaming at 144hz and have a monitor to do that. The 1060 cannot provide stable 100+ FPS in many of today's intense titles.
In some games the 1060 even struggles to maintain 70 FPS at 1080p.
In some games the 1060 even struggles to maintain 70 FPS at 1080p.
Low Profile Gamer
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I agree with all the answers above. My take on this is, there is really no future proofing in GPUs yet. I believe we still have 5 good more years before the Moore's law come to a halt. (Hopefully we can move on to quantum computing)
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1070 would last longer and be more convenient than juggling multiple lesser cards during a period of two years could argue that. Current trends vs console progressiveness in visuals is slow but PC/TV going 4k might be a push we need to get devs moving so who knows what the next couple of years will bring. But bit of an analysis on a couple of modern games like The Witcher 3 & Hitman and few older relevant ones like GTA5 & Farcry4, a few hardy games to run max at 1080p, do well on an going almost 3yr old GTX780Ti averaging high 40fps.
When 780Ti was released people were saying it's overkill, its the same old argument. But do agree in overkill if you'll be monitor restricted preventing you getting the most out of the graphics card now.
Gsync 1440p 144Hz monitor would be worth considering though, only real solution to the overkill vs conservative wrestle.
When 780Ti was released people were saying it's overkill, its the same old argument. But do agree in overkill if you'll be monitor restricted preventing you getting the most out of the graphics card now.
Gsync 1440p 144Hz monitor would be worth considering though, only real solution to the overkill vs conservative wrestle.
Isokolon
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by tuning down from max to very high/high settings which mostly is not recognizable the 1060 easily masters 1080p/60Hz
there are graphics settings causing the GPU a lot of load without providing much of a different in terms of optics
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I personally don't think spending an extra $150 is worth it for "future proofing" a system. IMHO, in 1-2 years a 1060 will be "ok" for gaming at 1080p and getting 60 fps. You will probably have to lower some settings, but if you think about it, a 760 is still capable of decent fps in 1080p, with lowered settings and that card is now 2 generations old. And in 1-2 years when the new xx60 card comes out performing better than the 1070, rather than sitting on a $400 card, (more or less what you can get a 1070 for right now), you'll be using a $250 card, which will be a little easier to let go of to upgrade.
I was faced with the same decision, and that was the thought process that caused me to decide on the 1060. I'd rather go with the cheaper card now so I can feel better about upgrading when the next generation of graphics cards comes out, in addition to saving some money. I am also not too concerned with being able to play the newest titles on ultra at 60fps, I am perfectly content with lowering settings.
All this being said, I do think the 1070 is a better route to go if you don't plan on getting a new card when the next generation is released. If you look at the performance of the 970 now, it is almost on par with a 1060, and not really worth the upgrade. So using that as a reference point, you can kind of assume (future tech is hard to predict, so there is potential for error here) that the 1070 will be slightly less than the 1160, or whatever is the next xx60 card.
I was faced with the same decision, and that was the thought process that caused me to decide on the 1060. I'd rather go with the cheaper card now so I can feel better about upgrading when the next generation of graphics cards comes out, in addition to saving some money. I am also not too concerned with being able to play the newest titles on ultra at 60fps, I am perfectly content with lowering settings.
All this being said, I do think the 1070 is a better route to go if you don't plan on getting a new card when the next generation is released. If you look at the performance of the 970 now, it is almost on par with a 1060, and not really worth the upgrade. So using that as a reference point, you can kind of assume (future tech is hard to predict, so there is potential for error here) that the 1070 will be slightly less than the 1160, or whatever is the next xx60 card.
I have a system with a 1060-6gb & one with a 1070 and I don't think its overkill, I think its "premium". The 1060 does very very well for the money. However it was struggling to hold 60fps in some of the AAA titles I played at the detail levels I wanted(I am a graphics whore...and I am sensitive to bad frame timings and stutters). If your happy with the level of detail the 1060 offers I would look really hard at the RX480 and then a Freesync monitor down the road.....I am anticipating what AMD's Vega brings to the table because the G-Sync tax is real
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