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Hello I need some advice, Canadian here

Looking for better performance when it comes to gaming and recording/streaming at sametime

Right now my current specs are
i5 2500k
8gb ram 1333
1tb hdd
780 gtx (looking to not upgrade)

Just want to know what would give me the best boost
Over clocking the 2500k to 4.4ish? buy a water cooling system
Going to 16gb or more ram?
SSD for windows and games(1tb SSD for 249 on newegg ebay)?

I also have a opportunity right now to buy a 3770k, H70 and 16GB 1866Mhz GSKill RAM for $300 canadian a good deal? overclocking the 3770k, selling the i5 2500k for $130-150


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I also have an buy the whole thing option for $650

i7 3770k
Asus P8Z77-V PRO Mobo with WiFi dongle
Corsair H70 Liquid Cooling
GTX 670 OC Edition
16GB 1866Mhz GSKill RAM
OCZ Vertex 4 120GB
Samsung 840 120GB
Corsair Force 3 120GB
2 TB Seagate 7200RPM
NZXT HALE 90 850 Modular Gold Cert PSU
Corsair CX750 Bronze Cert PSU
Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 Sound Card
Corsair Carbide 500R Case

I think that this is way under priced?

My setup I think I can get $400-500?

i5 2500k
Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3
GTX 670 (keep my 780)
8gb 1333
1.5tb
OCZ 700watt Modular
HAF 912
 
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The Corsair PSU is junk and is only good for a test unit and should not be used all the time, Motherboard isn't bad, the GPU is a bit weak now but that is no surprise, the Ram I would want to know the type of GSkill ram before saying much, both the OCZ and Samsung SSD's are decent and fast drives and the corsair drive is respectable, the sound card is not the top end now by any means as it was produced in 2007ish, the Case is decent, The liquid cooler is fair to middle of the 120mm coolers.

I think the price is just about right for the hardware.

your system.... toss up about the case, swap out your OCZ PSU with the Corsair PSU ( may lose a few dollars on the sale but you get to keep both good quality PSU's), Expect to get $350-400...
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because of streaming you will want the i7 processor because it can handle more at one time. while your system is still good, for what you want to do in my opinion it is best to go up to the i7 3770k system.

Recording and streaming are both memory intensive so no matter what you do boost up the 16GB of Ram.
 
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There are nice features in Win 10 but it also spy's on you and what you do to help target adds that are relevant to you. DX12 is one of the nice features.

As for 16 of 32 GB or ram, this will depend on exactly what you are doing. Gaming while recording/streaming will eat up some ram but so far Games have only just started requiring 16GB of ram. It wont hurt to have the 32GB down the line but at this exact point it is not necessary for doing what you mentioned.
 
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is it worth to go to windows 10 for the ram only?

As the 780 wont do anything with DX12 correct?

Windows 10 when i get a new GPU?

 
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wow thanks for the info, I was under the impression windows 7 didnt use more then 16gb and I need the 900+ series for DX12

awesome news

 
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I also have an buy the whole thing option for $650

i7 3770k
Asus P8Z77-V PRO Mobo with WiFi dongle
Corsair H70 Liquid Cooling
GTX 670 OC Edition
16GB 1866Mhz GSKill RAM
OCZ Vertex 4 120GB
Samsung 840 120GB
Corsair Force 3 120GB
2 TB Seagate 7200RPM
NZXT HALE 90 850 Modular Gold Cert PSU
Corsair CX750 Bronze Cert PSU
Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 Sound Card
Corsair Carbide 500R Case

I think that this is way under priced?

My setup I think I can get $400-500?

i5 2500k
Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3
GTX 670 (keep my 780)
8gb 1333
1.5tb
OCZ 700watt Modular
HAF 912


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The Corsair PSU is junk and is only good for a test unit and should not be used all the time, Motherboard isn't bad, the GPU is a bit weak now but that is no surprise, the Ram I would want to know the type of GSkill ram before saying much, both the OCZ and Samsung SSD's are decent and fast drives and the corsair drive is respectable, the sound card is not the top end now by any means as it was produced in 2007ish, the Case is decent, The liquid cooler is fair to middle of the 120mm coolers.

I think the price is just about right for the hardware.

your system.... toss up about the case, swap out your OCZ PSU with the Corsair PSU ( may lose a few dollars on the sale but you get to keep both good quality PSU's), Expect to get $350-400 from someone that knows hardware and the $400 -500 from someone that doesn't.

This is just my opinion on pricing but many here will agree with me on the Corsair CX series PSU's. They are just poorly built and die quickly.
 
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I didnt pick the answer above so no idea what is happening lol

so should I spend 300 and get CPU, Ram, H70? I can then sell my CPU($150) and Ram($50 tops)

or

Buy the whole thing for $650? sell my current machine for $400-500, sell extra PSU ($50 tops), potentially sell sound card no idea if keeping or selling that piece, and might sell one of the slow SSD
 
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what is the best PSU still the 700 OZ? other options is 850 nzxt and 750 corsair

 
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Keep the NZXT PSU and use it in your build since it is the best of all three, Keep the OCZ PSU for testing purposes this way you have a spare if something ever goes wrong, Sell the Corsair CX750 because it is a major turd in the world of PSU's.
 
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I have never overclocked

Background I can learn basically anything and have built a few machines from scratch before

How hard is overclocking and do you have any guides you recommend?
 
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overclocking is an art form, it take time and an understanding on how things work together. Once you have this it is actually usually quite simple to get a middle of the road overclock. To get a high over clock is where the art comes in, knowing what needs to be changed to get it stable.

as for guides, I don't use them because every piece will overclock differently and need slightly different things adjusted. I recommend doing some reading up on your BIOS settings to know what each one does and how it will effect other things, Read up on your CPU because you need to know the MAX temp and MAX voltage it can handle, Read up on your mother board and see if there are any common issues you need to know about before attempting an overclock.

You will need an aftermarket cooler, like the AIO solution from the other system to dissipate the extra heat the CPU will generate while overclocked. Extra fans will help also in the case to bring cool air in and force the hot air out.
 
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I would be doing mid overclock, H70 on CPU and H90 on GTX 780
 
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