What size PSU do I need?

Wolfeh

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Sep 11, 2016
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Hi

I have been reading up on power requirements but am having a difficult time coming to a conclusion.

I want to purchase a PSU capable of running a Radeon 5870 Eyefinity. It is a power hungry monster.

I realise by current specs this pc is ancient. :)

Specs :
Core2duo E6700 (Possibly E8400 later)
2 x 2Gb ddr2 ram
1 x SSD
3 x SATA HDD ( one 7200rpm, two 5400rpm)
1 x PCI creative fatal1ty sound card
2 x Extra fans - 120mm
Aerocool E80 600W - my current PSU

According to http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/ I need about 442W (which I don't understand at all).

From my reading of the GFX card it peaks at about 350W usage, whilst my cpu peaks at 165W (which means about 43 amps/515W for the both at peak).

Then there is also the matter of capacitor degradation. From what I have read I need to add about 20% more capacity to take that into account. Doesn't help if I get minimum spec and the PSU fails in 6 months.

I am on a very tight budget and prices seem to go up at a rapid rate the higher wattage a PSU is.

There is also the matter of build quality, I did at one point consider a Raidmax RX 730SS, due to affordability, but have since discarded that idea.

I am contemplating going crossfire in future, so perhaps I should buy a PSU now that would make that possible.

Some advice from the experts would be appreciated.

Ps. At this point I am even considering buying an extra 350/450w PSU, and just extending the cables for my extra 8pin input on the GFX card. xD Messy to be sure, but cost effective it would seem.
 
Solution
AMD and Nvidia Overstate power needs , but if you feel more comfortable get a 650w.

Radeon 5870 Eyefinity:

PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
600 Watt or greater power supply is recommended with one 75W 6-pin and one 150W 8-pin PCI Express® power connector required (900 Watt and 2 6-pin and 2 8-pin connectors for AMD CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://support.amd.com/en-us/recommended/power-supplies for a list of Certified products
Minimum 1GB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Blu-ray™ playback requires Blu-ray drive
For an AMD CrossFireX™...

Dark Lord of Tech

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http://www.wootware.co.za/fsp-hyper-s-600w-85-efficiency-desktop-power-supply.html
HYPER 600W.


OR

http://www.wootware.co.za/super-flower-sf-550p14xe-hx-golden-green-hx-550w-80-plus-gold-certified-desktop-power-supply.html

Super Flower SF-550P14XE(HX) Golden Green HX 550W 80 Plus Gold Certified Desktop Power Supply

 

Wolfeh

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Sep 11, 2016
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Hi

Thank you for the response.

Why is it a bad idea? (asking out of honest ignorance)

The PSU you suggested has an output of 45 Amps @12V, my current has 42 Amps @12 V. It seems like a negligible difference.

Regardless I do not understand how this is enough. According to my calculations, I need at least 53 Amps @12 V for max load( GPU - 29 Amps , CPU - 14 Amps , Hdd's 10 amps).
 

Wolfeh

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Sep 11, 2016
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Thanks for that website link. I am sure to find something I feel is adequate at a reasonable price point.

Still don't get how 550W would be plenty. It seems to me that 763W should be the minimum.
 

Dark Lord of Tech

Retired Moderator
AMD and Nvidia Overstate power needs , but if you feel more comfortable get a 650w.

Radeon 5870 Eyefinity:

PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
600 Watt or greater power supply is recommended with one 75W 6-pin and one 150W 8-pin PCI Express® power connector required (900 Watt and 2 6-pin and 2 8-pin connectors for AMD CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://support.amd.com/en-us/recommended/power-supplies for a list of Certified products
Minimum 1GB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Blu-ray™ playback requires Blu-ray drive
For an AMD CrossFireX™ system, a second ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition graphics card, an AMD CrossFireX ™ Ready motherboard and one AMD CrossFireX™ Bridge Interconnect cable per graphics card
 
Solution

Wolfeh

Commendable
Sep 11, 2016
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According to THW reviews the GPU maxes out at around 350w under full load, whilst my CPU maxes out at 165W under full load. I am more inclined to trust actual tested reviews. Assuming 1.8 amps for 4 hdd devices also on the 12V rail, this implies I have to prepare for 601W at full load. Taking into account capacitor degradation over time this implies to me I need 721.7 W available on the 12v rail. Add in some extra wattage for motherboard, fans etc, and it looks like I need at least 750W.

I still cannot understand the huge discrepancy between the calculator(@442W; 530W if I add 20%) and my above approach.

http://www.wootware.co.za/super-flower-sf-650f14mt-leadex-650w-80-plus-silver-certified-fully-modular-black-desktop-power-supply.html

The above still doesn't reach my calculated requirements, but it seems to at least hit my basic number before overspec. I am still somewhat leery given that they used CapXon caps in this PSU, but I am now at teh point where I don't want to think about it anymore. :??: :lol: